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What was the best army in WW2? II.

What was the best army in WW2?

The Red Army:

The British Army:

The USA Army:

The Japonese Army:

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The Germany Army, "The Wehrmacht"

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This is a debate.

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-Will have to provide information from by that you think that your choice is the best army.

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Ellio_98 wrote:

"Americans are well equipped and friendly, but complete idiots"
I'm sorry, I'm American, but I agree with this. The average American isn't all that smart.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton

oceanhawk wrote:

or even look at the socialist state of Venezuela
That seems to be more Communist that Socialist. Truer Socialist countries include every country in Scandinavia.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Yes it never heated up.. basic knowledge here.. think we all ahead of you...

Things heated up plenty of times.. just not directly.

Americans won.. wasnt easy, but they got the job done

You can't read, can you? Not a war, an arms race. Never got hot, USSR and USA never came into contact, saying the US won is a blatant lie and a moronic statement that will reflect on a persons mental capacity poorly.

oceanhawk wrote:

so if the soviet union and Communism is so great.. tell me why it fell?
US Imperialism.
To be correct, the "Western World" as a whole won the Cold War. And can people please stop saying America is Imperialistic. I agree that we overstep our boundaries too often, but everyone else just seems to be too lazy sometimes to do it themselves. If anything, blame Europe for "American Imperialism".
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton

Kehsct wrote:

That seems to be more Communist that Socialist. Truer Socialist countries include every country in Scandinavia.
USSR was a true Socialist country....It's in the name even: Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

oceanhawk wrote:

Afghanistan

cough cough

Pro Soviet Afghanistan government lasted longer than USSR. So it is hardly a loss.

Titantc wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Afghanistan

cough cough

Pro Soviet Afghanistan government lasted longer than USSR. So it is hardly a loss.

Did the soviets win their war in Afghanistan?...

that is my point... nothing else.. nothing more


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Well conventional armies no longer win wars, with guerrilla warfare a few 'freedom fighters' and some bombs and you've turned an army around. Its like playing a big game of 'Hidden in plain sight'


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Being a Ukrainian and obviously our country was annexed into "Grosser Deutschland" and then back into the USSR...

Based on skill and tremendous military tactics the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe were superior to 90% of the European forces the 10% being the RAF...

Soviet Army was based on mass forces "old-school" military cavalry attacks, the Soviet commander would force his men to run full steam into a machine gun next hoping that overall a few of his men would survive and take out the MG Pit, losing 500 men in one attack meant nothing to a commander who had 600 men they just had to get the objective...

Stalingrad was a battle of "Rats" as the Germans called it, this showed the true German weakness which was close quarter hand to hand combat, the Soviet Army was designed for brutality and no mercy to their enemies, defensively both armies were tragic; Stalingrad was saved by an able commander who knew how to deploy few men into a city of rubble...

So overall for me the Germans would get it arguably the Waffen SS if they can be included as those guys were superior to most forces in Europe for their fighting ability, but the Wehrmacht was never as good and neither was most forces in Europe.


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Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Yes it never heated up.. basic knowledge here.. think we all ahead of you...

Things heated up plenty of times.. just not directly.

Americans won.. wasnt easy, but they got the job done

You can't read, can you? Not a war, an arms race. Never got hot, USSR and USA never came into contact, saying the US won is a blatant lie and a moronic statement that will reflect on a persons mental capacity poorly.

oceanhawk wrote:

so if the soviet union and Communism is so great.. tell me why it fell?
US Imperialism.
Err, Quasi, if you think the USSR didn't lose the Cold War, you have some kind of mental disorder.
The past is a foreign country.

Kehsct wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

or even look at the socialist state of Venezuela
That seems to be more Communist that Socialist. Truer Socialist countries include every country in Scandinavia.

The socialist government is bringing in a tax on the population to give to returning ISIS Fighters so they can get food and accommodation when they return to society..

somebody they said, they should be trialed for treason...

I said so should the politicians there

Scandinavia is not the brilliant socialist community people dream about.. sorry..

Venezula is if anything more socialist..

Socialism, Communism, Marxism

yea sounds great to some, but doesnt work...

Please do not disrespect other countries, and limit sexual insults, offensive posts will not be tolerated


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

Pablo22510 wrote:

if you think the USSR didn't lose the Cold War,
Look, what I'm trying to say is, you can't win if you never fought or came into contact. By this logic, I beat you up.

oceanhawk wrote:

Kehsct wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

or even look at the socialist state of Venezuela
That seems to be more Communist that Socialist. Truer Socialist countries include every country in Scandinavia.
Sweden is the rape capital of Europe, and from every single Swed I have talked to they hate how things are run...

The socialist government is bringing in a tax on the population to give to returning ISIS Fighters so they can get food and accommodation when they return to society..

somebody they said, they should be trialed for treason...

I said so should the politicians there

Scandinavia is not the brilliant socialist community people dream about.. sorry..

Venezula is if anything more socialist..

Socialism, Communism, Marxism

yea sounds great to some, but doesnt work...

Any link? Because that all sounds fake.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton

Titantc wrote:

Kehsct wrote:

That seems to be more Communist that Socialist. Truer Socialist countries include every country in Scandinavia.
USSR was a true Socialist country....It's in the name even: Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Socialism was in the name, not in the government. Stalin shaped Communism into his own view, and that's what the USSR was. Socialism, nowadays, is different from Communism.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton

Ellio_98 wrote:

Well conventional armies no longer win wars, with guerrilla warfare a few 'freedom fighters' and some bombs and you've turned an army around. Its like playing a big game of 'Hidden in plain sight'
I agree with this so much.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pity you can't just nuke 'em either.
Wish I could, but then you have civilian casualties, collateral damage, radioactive fallout, political disaster...
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton

Kehsct wrote:

Socialism was in the name, not in the government.
Correct.

"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

Kehsct wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Kehsct wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

or even look at the socialist state of Venezuela
That seems to be more Communist that Socialist. Truer Socialist countries include every country in Scandinavia.
Sweden is the rape capital of Europe, and from every single Swed I have talked to they hate how things are run...The socialist government is bringing in a tax on the population to give to returning ISIS Fighters so they can get food and accommodation when they return to society..

somebody they said, they should be trialed for treason...

I said so should the politicians there

Scandinavia is not the brilliant socialist community people dream about.. sorry..

Venezula is if anything more socialist..

Socialism, Communism, Marxism

yea sounds great to some, but doesnt work...

Any link? Because that all sounds fake.

I quote from one swed

"I am swede... and this is my reaction each morning when opening up our nations liberal newspapers 0:25Our prime minister Stefan L is a moron. AND hear this... he blames me and my fellow contry men (who btw did NOT vote for him) for the disaster that he created.In modern day Sweden people have to live in tents cuz of the shortage of homes. Taxes are through the roofs and most of it is spent on ILLIGAL immigration. People are coming without identifications, expecting help. We dont know what kind of people are coming.The funny thing is, if you question this openly then you are labled a bigott, racist, asshole etc. People have been fired, shunned and even threatened with violence.Modern day liberal Sweden "

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/swedens-welfare-bonanza-for-returning-isis-jihadists/


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

if you think the USSR didn't lose the Cold War,
Look, what I'm trying to say is, you can't win if you never fought or came into contact. By this logic, I beat you up.
Dude, the Cold War was won by the USA. Proof of it was that of the two main belligerents, the USSR and the USA, only one survived.
The past is a foreign country.
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