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What was the best army in WW2? II.

What was the best army in WW2?

The Red Army:

The British Army:

The USA Army:

The Japonese Army:

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The Germany Army, "The Wehrmacht"

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This is a debate.

Rules of the debate:

-Will have to provide information from by that you think that your choice is the best army.

-You shall respect the forum rules.


"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
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Quasi-duck wrote:

UA Dzharet wrote:

Best SMG: PPSH-41

Best BAR: Kar 98k

Best MG: Maschinegewehr 42

Best Grenade: M42

Best Tank: Bengal Tiger (Tiger II)

BAR stands for Browning Automatic Rifle and the Kar 98K was a semi-auto bolt action rifle. The best tank was not the Tiger II either, it ate fuel and the engine was over strained as well as being unfit for mass production on top of being way too expensive.

The PPSH-41 was a machine pistol, by the way. Same with the MP-40.

tried to shorten Bolt Action Rifle :D my bad for confusion :D

My opinions :P if the Tiger II didnt have fuel problems and got the ugrades it would have decimated every tank on the field, it saw active service during the ardennes :)

never heard of term Machine Pistol actually so just put what was natural in my home area i guess :D


Джаред Михайлович Ніколюк 9

UA Dzharet wrote:

tried to shorten Bolt Action Rifle my bad for confusion
Fair enough so!

UA Dzharet wrote:

never heard of term Machine Pistol actually so just put what was natural in my home area i guess
Haha, really? Very popular in WWII.

Quasi-duck wrote:

UA Dzharet wrote:

Best SMG: PPSH-41

Best BAR: Kar 98k

Best MG: Maschinegewehr 42

Best Grenade: M42

Best Tank: Bengal Tiger (Tiger II)

BAR stands for Browning Automatic Rifle and the Kar 98K was a semi-auto bolt action rifle. The best tank was not the Tiger II either, it ate fuel and the engine was over strained as well as being unfit for mass production on top of being way too expensive.

The PPSH-41 was a machine pistol, by the way. Same with the MP-40.

BAR stands for bolt action rifle...

The bar you are thinking off.. is a browning automatic rifle... not a class of gun..

The PPSH was a SMG.. dont know where you got that info from..


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Da, my grandfather fought in the German Army after collobarating he never used MP he just called Sub Machine Gun :D

He still has the PPSH actually never liked his standard MP40, PPSH was just called shhh from the gun sound it made as well so went from that SMG because of its fire rate


Джаред Михайлович Ніколюк 9

oceanhawk wrote:

BAR stands for bolt action rifle...

The bar you are thinking off.. is a browning automatic rifle... not a class of gun..

The PPSH was a SMG.. dont know where you got that info from..

From all the reading of guns I do, I have never heard a bolt action called a BAR. FYI an automatic rifle is a class of gun, the US is getting some M27 IAR's instead of about half their LMG's. The PPSH is a machine pistol, do you even know the difference?

UA Dzharet wrote:

Da, my grandfather fought in the German Army after collobarating he never used MP he just called Sub Machine Gun
Haha, troops do funny things with names. The Brits named the Sherman after a lighter, the Ronson, as early models light every time, which is what Ronson's motto was.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

BAR stands for bolt action rifle...

The bar you are thinking off.. is a browning automatic rifle... not a class of gun..

The PPSH was a SMG.. dont know where you got that info from..

From all the reading of guns I do, I have never heard a bolt action called a BAR. FYI an automatic rifle is a class of gun, the US is getting some M27 IAR's instead of about half their LMG's. The PPSH is a machine pistol, do you even know the difference?

UA Dzharet wrote:

Da, my grandfather fought in the German Army after collobarating he never used MP he just called Sub Machine Gun
Haha, troops do funny things with names. The Brits named the Sherman after a lighter, the Ronson, as early models light every time, which is what Ronson's motto was.
Yes an automatic rifle is a class.. but not a browning automatic.. you do know Browning is a brand right?

The PPSH Is a SMG.. Plus give me your source.. and wikipdeia and Call of Duty WoW do not count....

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=217


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-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

Yes an automatic rifle is a class.. but not a browning automatic.. you do know Browning is a brand right?
What a moronic statement.

oceanhawk wrote:

The PPSH Is a SMG.. Plus give me your source.. and wikipdeia and Call of Duty WoW do not count....
Weapons of World War II written by renowned authour Alexander Ludeke (there is umlaut over the u).

Give me the definition of a small machine gun Ocean, I bet you can't without looking it up.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Yes an automatic rifle is a class.. but not a browning automatic.. you do know Browning is a brand right?
What a moronic statement.

oceanhawk wrote:

The PPSH Is a SMG.. Plus give me your source.. and wikipdeia and Call of Duty WoW do not count....
Weapons of World War II written by renowned authour Alexander Ludeke (there is umlaut over the u).

Give me the definition of a small machine gun Ocean, I bet you can't without looking it up.

SMG.. Stands for Sub machine gun... not small....

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

SMG.. Stands for Sub machine gun... not small....
A typo, and still no definition.

It is the bridge between a Machine Pistol and An assault Rifle


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

It is the bridge between a Machine Pistol and An assault Rifle
No it's not. It is an automatic carbine using pistol ammunition. You do know that the assault rifle was made in WWII as well, after the SMG's, right?

UA Dzharet wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

Who had better armament? Great Britain or Germany? in WWII
Best SMG: PPSH-41Best BAR: Kar 98k

Best MG: Maschinegewehr 42

Best Grenade: M42

Best Tank: Bengal Tiger (Tiger II)

Overall the German armament was crazy :D some insane weaponry

Good information.

"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

And my friend isn't a Muslim terrorist. He is an oil exporter, who says that Assad is bad as hell.
Oh, sorry Pablo, I just played an awesome prank on you. By the way I live on the moon and it is made of cheese. The landings are a hoax too.

See how easy it is to lie online?

Look, man, I know it's easy to lie. But I swear I don't. I've met the guy in person, and he's a nice person, Fabuan. But you're not going to believe it, so what's the point?
The past is a foreign country.

What do you think about Patton? He is good general?


"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

Maximilien wrote:

What do you think about Patton? He is good general?
Not a bad one, definitely. But too individualistic.
The past is a foreign country.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Not a bad one, definitely.
Yes, he have good strategy in Italy.

"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

Maximilien wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

Not a bad one, definitely.
Yes, he have good strategy in Italy.
Not Italy. France.
The past is a foreign country.

What do you think about Montgomery? @Pablo22510


"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

Maximilien wrote:

What do you think about Montgomery? @Pablo22510
Worst Allied general in WW2.
The past is a foreign country.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Worst Allied general in WW2.
Look Market Garden.

"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
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