*cough *cough*Maximilien wrote:
Look Market Garden.Pablo22510 wrote:
Worst Allied general in WW2.
Epic fail.
11 Apr 2016, 18:20
The past is a foreign country.
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What was the best army in WW2? II.
What was the best army in WW2?
The Red Army:
The British Army:
The USA Army:
The Japonese Army:
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The Germany Army, "The Wehrmacht"
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This is a debate.
Rules of the debate:
-Will have to provide information from by that you think that your choice is the best army.
-You shall respect the forum rules.
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"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
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11 Apr 2016, 18:22
No.Pablo22510 wrote:
Epic fail.
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
11 Apr 2016, 19:06
Quasi-duck wrote:
No it's not. It is an automatic carbine using pistol ammunition. You do know that the assault rifle was made in WWII as well, after the SMG's, right?oceanhawk wrote:
It is the bridge between a Machine Pistol and An assault Rifle
Yea.. no
You are right that it uses Usually pistol ammo, of 9mm... but it is a bridge between machine pistols and rifles...
its range is superior to Machine pistols, and although is usually just short of the Assault rifles...
I love you think you know more than everyone else, while you talk about basic points... yes we all know that the Germans made the first Assault Rifle.. congrats...
The PPSH-41 Was a Sub machine gun, not a pistol..
Unlike you I have sources..
http://world.guns.ru/smg/rus/pca-41-e.html
http://ww2db.com/weapon.php?q=61
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=217
Wikipedia is a good tool, but its not always very accurate.. so if you need a source, that can be a back up to 2 or 3 other sources..
Can use it to cross reference..
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
11 Apr 2016, 19:11
Your ignorance astounds me...... Especially since you shortened machine pistol to pistol for brevity, which was a moronic idea....oceanhawk wrote:
Yea.. noQuasi-duck wrote:
No it's not. It is an automatic carbine using pistol ammunition. You do know that the assault rifle was made in WWII as well, after the SMG's, right?oceanhawk wrote:
It is the bridge between a Machine Pistol and An assault RifleYou are right that it uses Usually pistol ammo, of 9mm... but it is a bridge between machine pistols and rifles...
its range is superior to Machine pistols, and although is usually just short of the Assault rifles...
I love you think you know more than everyone else, while you talk about basic points... yes we all know that the Germans made the first Assault Rifle.. congrats...
The PPSH-41 Was a Sub machine gun, not a pistol..
Unlike you I have sources..
http://world.guns.ru/smg/rus/pca-41-e.html
http://ww2db.com/weapon.php?q=61
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=217
Wikipedia is a good tool, but its not always very accurate.. so if you need a source, that can be a back up to 2 or 3 other sources..
Can use it to cross reference..
I gave you a source, a book by a WWII expert from Germany. Note, I never said the Germans made the first assault rifle either, I just said it was from WWII. In fact, you make yourself look silly as you call assault rifles both assault rifles and rifles, while they are different things, and call machine pistols pistols, which is wrong again.
I didn't even use Wiki, silly.oceanhawk wrote:
Wikipedia is a good tool, but its not always very accurate.. so if you need a source, that can be a back up to 2 or 3 other sources..
11 Apr 2016, 19:15
@Quasi-duck You know Operation Bragation?
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
11 Apr 2016, 19:15
Yup, what about it?Maximilien wrote:
@Quasi-duck You know Operation Bragation?
11 Apr 2016, 19:16
What do you think about this? Good operation of Red Army or Error of German Army?Quasi-duck wrote:
Yup, what about it?Maximilien wrote:
@Quasi-duck You know Operation Bragation?
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
11 Apr 2016, 19:21
Good operation of the Reds. Germany's error was attacking the USSR, they simply did not have enough men.Maximilien wrote:
What do you think about this? Good operation of Red Army or Error of German Army?
11 Apr 2016, 19:22
Interesting.Quasi-duck wrote:
Good operation of the Reds. Germany's error was attacking the USSR, they simply did not have enough men.
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
11 Apr 2016, 19:26
Why do you think that is interesting?Maximilien wrote:
Interesting.Quasi-duck wrote:
Good operation of the Reds. Germany's error was attacking the USSR, they simply did not have enough men.
11 Apr 2016, 19:29
cos every thing interesting, correct, xD or "its possible"Quasi-duck wrote:
Why do you think that is interesting?Maximilien wrote:
Interesting.Quasi-duck wrote:
Good operation of the Reds. Germany's error was attacking the USSR, they simply did not have enough men.
isnt that right @Maximilien
bahaha
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
11 Apr 2016, 19:30
I know he participated, but he foiled it up. Only good British land general was the one that is 2 below Monty. Miles Dempsey. Very good.Maximilien wrote:
No.Pablo22510 wrote:
Epic fail.
The past is a foreign country.
11 Apr 2016, 19:32
Quasi-duck wrote:
Your ignorance astounds me...... Especially since you shortened machine pistol to pistol for brevity, which was a moronic idea....oceanhawk wrote:
Yea.. noYou are right that it uses Usually pistol ammo, of 9mm... but it is a bridge between machine pistols and rifles...Quasi-duck wrote:
No it's not. It is an automatic carbine using pistol ammunition. You do know that the assault rifle was made in WWII as well, after the SMG's, right?oceanhawk wrote:
It is the bridge between a Machine Pistol and An assault Rifleits range is superior to Machine pistols, and although is usually just short of the Assault rifles...
I love you think you know more than everyone else, while you talk about basic points... yes we all know that the Germans made the first Assault Rifle.. congrats...
The PPSH-41 Was a Sub machine gun, not a pistol..
Unlike you I have sources..
http://world.guns.ru/smg/rus/pca-41-e.html
http://ww2db.com/weapon.php?q=61
http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=217
Wikipedia is a good tool, but its not always very accurate.. so if you need a source, that can be a back up to 2 or 3 other sources..
Can use it to cross reference..
I gave you a source, a book by a WWII expert from Germany. Note, I never said the Germans made the first assault rifle either, I just said it was from WWII. In fact, you make yourself look silly as you call assault rifles both assault rifles and rifles, while they are different things, and call machine pistols pistols, which is wrong again.
I didn't even use Wiki, silly.oceanhawk wrote:
Wikipedia is a good tool, but its not always very accurate.. so if you need a source, that can be a back up to 2 or 3 other sources..
Okay... Assault rifles and Rifles are different things..
The germans did create the first "Assualt rifle"
Machine Pistols and Pistols are different aswell...
you have a record for taking a lot of arguments from there...
but happy too see, you aint quoting from there... this book..
cross check.. I have more than one source.. but I wont be bad out, and say that book wrong.. I havent seen it so.. I will try take a look at it whenever I can..
what was the name of it again?
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
11 Apr 2016, 19:33
Market Garden was a bad operation carried out by the allies.Pablo22510 wrote:
I know he participated, but he foiled it up. Only good British land general was the one that is 2 below Monty. Miles Dempsey. Very good.
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
11 Apr 2016, 19:33
The Operation Bragation.Quasi-duck wrote:
Why do you think that is interesting?
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
11 Apr 2016, 19:35
Actually, the Americans did. This is the great Grandaddy of the of the M4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbineoceanhawk wrote:
The germans did create the first "Assualt rifle"
Weapons of World War II.oceanhawk wrote:
what was the name of it again?
11 Apr 2016, 19:35
I know, but why is it interesting?Maximilien wrote:
The Operation Bragation.Quasi-duck wrote:
Why do you think that is interesting?
11 Apr 2016, 19:43
STG 44 was actually the first assault rifle.Quasi-duck wrote:
Actually, the Americans did. This is the great Grandaddy of the of the M4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbineoceanhawk wrote:
The germans did create the first "Assualt rifle"Weapons of World War II.oceanhawk wrote:
what was the name of it again?
The past is a foreign country.
11 Apr 2016, 20:20
Quasi-duck wrote:
Actually, the Americans did. This is the great Grandaddy of the of the M4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbineoceanhawk wrote:
The germans did create the first "Assualt rifle"Weapons of World War II.oceanhawk wrote:
what was the name of it again?
Yea... no Germans had first "Assault rifle"...
Stg 44 If Im correct..
and the Author?
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
11 Apr 2016, 20:27
Jeez, I told you earlier, look yourself.oceanhawk wrote:
and the Author?
It was not, the M1 Carbine is. The M4 carbine is an assault rifle, no? An assault rifle is a fully automatic selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.Pablo22510 wrote:
STG 44 was actually the first assault rifle.
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