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What was the best army in WW2? II.

What was the best army in WW2?

The Red Army:

The British Army:

The USA Army:

The Japonese Army:

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The Germany Army, "The Wehrmacht"

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This is a debate.

Rules of the debate:

-Will have to provide information from by that you think that your choice is the best army.

-You shall respect the forum rules.


"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

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oceanhawk wrote:

Duck accept the facts.. the German army was a superior fighting force

on all levels..

@Maximilien is right duck..

Correct.

"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

oceanhawk wrote:

The soviets were the worst army.. just sheer production as well as no regard for their soldiers.
The Germans forced twelve year olds to fight tanks and had the SS execute them if they didn't.

oceanhawk wrote:

I have sources, no need to quote as they just well known facts..
Give me one then.

oceanhawk wrote:

Wikipedia is not a trusted source
That is a moronic statement, I take it you have never tried to edit Wikipedia with incorrect facts like I have.

oceanhawk wrote:

The soviets had no casualties in Berlin, cos every German were running to the allies..
Really? They could not have ran as the city was surrounded and more German soldiers died than Russians.

oceanhawk wrote:

argument you have ever made.. is irrelevant
Untrue, I do not go off on tangents about post-WWII presidents when discussing armies of WWII.

oceanhawk wrote:

just this scene says what I mean...
An American TV show as a source? Ridiculous, those things are only for making money. Look at any war movie.

oceanhawk wrote:

Duck accept the facts.. the German army was a superior fighting force

on all levels..

Don't come to Cork.....

Quasi-duck wrote:

Don't come to Cork.....
Dont worry, I dont want to

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

@Quasi-duck


"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

Maximilien wrote:

According to you, the Soviet army was better than the American army and the German army, correct? @Quasi-duck
Yes, and countless historians. The majority WWII French population too.

your place aint got much anyway.. soz mate where I am in Dublin is the best..


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

aint got much anyway.. soz mate where I am in Dublin is the best..
What the hell is wrong with you, remove my town!

Quasi-duck wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

According to you, the Soviet army was better than the American army and the German army, correct? @Quasi-duck
Yes, and countless historians. The majority WWII French population too.
In 1945, there were countless Communist militias who fought the Germans. Survey in 1945 was only the leaders of the French armies, not to the French people.

"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

aint got much anyway.. soz mate where I am in Dublin is the best..
What the hell is wrong with you, remove my town!
Calm in the thread! :)

"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

Fair enough...

Dublin is the best.. especially where I am..


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

You have a blatant disregard for historical facts. This is a biased (on your part) argument against someone who has thoroughly studied all major forces of this era.

Quasi-duck wrote:

You have a blatant disregard for historical facts. This is a biased (on your part) argument against someone who has thoroughly studied all major forces of this era.
sorry.. are clearly you have not studied all major forces of this era...

besides your views..

you get your information from Wikipedia

best place for your information is from books... as they are read by about 10 different historians before publishing


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

People, remember the chat rules!


"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

oceanhawk wrote:

sorry.. are clearly you have not studied all major forces of this era...

besides your views..

How would you know? Simply because our views differ?

oceanhawk wrote:

best place for your information is from books.
I have one book that you would love. Remember, no take backs!

Maximilien wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

Untrue, this is a baseless fact.
Stalin began the great purges in the Soviet army during the 1930s. This caused most of the generals were inexperienced in combat and no experience.The Red Army had weapons and basically consisted of weapons dating from the first world war. The Red Army lost 30,000,000 million soldiers! Soviet aviation could not fight against the German aviation!
Get your facts straight. Check your sources again. You are a great product of American propaganda , as you ignore the obvious facts and keep on insisting Germans and Americans ( which barely fought Germans at all, and would get their asses handed to them just like French did ) were better. IF they would , they would win, especially being better equipped and trained at the beginning of the war. Their early success was based on their treacherous attack ( Germany had NAP with USSR ), during which they destroyed most of the aviation still on the ground and encircling Soviet underequiped unready troops. Very similar to Pearl Harbor, just on the MUCH MUCH bigger scale.

By the way, Red Army did not lose 30 mln troops. USSR lost in total roughly 27 mln people, and that is mostly civilians.

eehh Im referring to only history books...


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

MihailMD wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

Untrue, this is a baseless fact.
Stalin began the great purges in the Soviet army during the 1930s. This caused most of the generals were inexperienced in combat and no experience.The Red Army had weapons and basically consisted of weapons dating from the first world war. The Red Army lost 30,000,000 million soldiers! Soviet aviation could not fight against the German aviation!
Get your facts straight. Check your sources again. You are a great product of American propaganda , as you ignore the obvious facts and keep on insisting Germans and Americans ( which barely fought Germans at all, and would get their asses handed to them just like French did ) were better. IF they would , they would win, especially being better equipped and trained at the beginning of the war. Their early success was based on their treacherous attack ( Germany had NAP with USSR ), during which they destroyed most of the aviation still on the ground and encircling Soviet underequiped unready troops. Very similar to Pearl Harbor, just on the MUCH MUCH bigger scale.

By the way, Red Army did not lose 30 mln troops. USSR lost in total roughly 27 mln people, and that is mostly civilians.


"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

oceanhawk wrote:

eehh Im referring to only history books...
Correct.

"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

oceanhawk wrote:

eehh Im referring to only history books...
Pfft, that book is the history of the Earth! SInce it is a book, it must be true. Anyway, countless history books are wrong. For example, most books about the 1916 Rising and the War of Independence written by Brits.
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