What was the best army in WW2? II.

Maximilien wrote:

The Soviets easily defeated the Japanese and caused a heavy defeat to the Japanese in Korea since the Japanese were more concentrated in the Pacific.

Kehsct wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

Kehsct wrote:

Correct! The great Japanese resistance and damage to the battleships of the United States, influenced the decision to launch the atomic bombs to Japan.

We mainly launched the atomic bombs due to the high probability of unacceptably high casualties (look at Okinawa, then imagine us invading their homeland). I support the dropping of the bombs.

Not exactly. Truman was well aware of the obligation by the Soviets to attack Japan 3 months after the surrender of Germany. Imagine if the Soviets took over Japan before USA would. It would be a political suicide. Thus the nukes were rushed, US pretty much used all they had. Third bomb was weeks away(maybe even a month) from being ready for deployment. It was a bluff and a way out of a tough situation. It worked.

As for the Soviets, they stayed true to their promice. Defeat of Germany on May 9th, attack on Japan on August 9th. Exactly 3 months.

I have to say the German Army. They were well trained and equipped (Apart from the whole Russian winter thing). They also pioneered Armored warfare into the modern warfare we see today.

Ellio_98 wrote:

I have to say the German Army. They were well trained and equipped (Apart from the whole Russian winter thing). They also pioneered Armored warfare into the modern warfare we see today.

They were very well equipped, they had some of the best weapons of the war. From a vast array of Guns to infra-red technology to radio's and command tanks creating great organisation. Its the things we take for granted they pioneered. Also the best infantry Anti-tank weapon of the war was German, the Panzerfaust. It was a disposable anti-tank rocket that was light and very easy to use and produce. Allowing infantry to deal with anything they come across. The German army also pioneered rocket technology, with the head engineer of the V-2 program to go on and design the rocket the US used to get to the moon. Although German tanks were small in number, and hard to maintain, they were greatly feared and they produce very forward thinking chassis which allowed modification into a number of roles/variants to deal with any obstacle they come across.

You are talking about late-war weapons. How about early-war ones

Titantc wrote:

Japanese had a million soldiers against the Soviets. How many did they have in the Pacific?

Ellio_98 wrote:

I have to say the German Army. They were well trained and equipped (Apart from the whole Russian winter thing). They also pioneered Armored warfare into the modern warfare we see today.

Maximilien wrote:

Titantc wrote:

Japanese had a million soldiers against the Soviets. How many did they have in the Pacific?

The Japanese Empire had many troops in China. They also had around 3,000,000 of soldiers in the Pacific.

There were 6 million in the army. Out of them 1 million(1.4 by other accounts) in Manchuria, 1.5 million in the rest of IndoChina, 2 million were poorly trained home defence volunteers(most likely on main islands). That leaves 1.5 million for everywhere else.

Titantc wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

Titantc wrote:

Japanese had a million soldiers against the Soviets. How many did they have in the Pacific?

The Japanese Empire had many troops in China. They also had around 3,000,000 of soldiers in the Pacific.

where?There were 6 million in the army. Out of them 1 million(1.4 by other accounts) in Manchuria, 1.5 million in the rest of IndoChina, 2 million were poorly trained home defence volunteers(most likely on main islands). That leaves 1.5 million for everywhere else.

Maximilien wrote:

wildL wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

The Soviet Union had an army untrained in combat

Some were untrained and that was early in the war. For example, tank crews were expected to last one battle, same with a tank. So if a crew survived, they got a new tank.Fighting was truly bitter. One man and his twenty something soldiers held a house in Stalingrad for a month, taking out tanks and soldiers all day everyday. They killed so many Germans that they had to run out and kick down the piles of bodies in the lulls to stop the Germans from using them as cover.

The Soviets lost 30,000,000 million soldiers on the eastern front. The Germans achieved major victories over the Soviets, the Soviets did not have experience in combat and had an air force unable to compete with the German force.

No this is not true.More like 9-12 million, the rest was civilians...

What do you think what was the best Army?

wildL wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

wildL wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

The Soviet Union had an army untrained in combat

Some were untrained and that was early in the war. For example, tank crews were expected to last one battle, same with a tank. So if a crew survived, they got a new tank.Fighting was truly bitter. One man and his twenty something soldiers held a house in Stalingrad for a month, taking out tanks and soldiers all day everyday. They killed so many Germans that they had to run out and kick down the piles of bodies in the lulls to stop the Germans from using them as cover.

The Soviets lost 30,000,000 million soldiers on the eastern front. The Germans achieved major victories over the Soviets, the Soviets did not have experience in combat and had an air force unable to compete with the German force.

No this is not true.More like 9-12 million, the rest was civilians...

What do you think what was the best Army?

The one(s) that one?

oopps.. I mean "WON"! lol

wildL wrote:

oopps.. I mean "WON"! lol

Titantc wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

The Soviets easily defeated the Japanese and caused a heavy defeat to the Japanese in Korea since the Japanese were more concentrated in the Pacific.

Japanese had a million soldiers against the Soviets. How many did they have in the Pacific?

Kehsct wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

Kehsct wrote:

Correct! The great Japanese resistance and damage to the battleships of the United States, influenced the decision to launch the atomic bombs to Japan.

We mainly launched the atomic bombs due to the high probability of unacceptably high casualties (look at Okinawa, then imagine us invading their homeland). I support the dropping of the bombs.

Not exactly. Truman was well aware of the obligation by the Soviets to attack Japan 3 months after the surrender of Germany. Imagine if the Soviets took over Japan before USA would. It would be a political suicide. Thus the nukes were rushed, US pretty much used all they had. Third bomb was weeks away(maybe even a month) from being ready for deployment. It was a bluff and a way out of a tough situation. It worked.

As for the Soviets, they stayed true to their promice. Defeat of Germany on May 9th, attack on Japan on August 9th. Exactly 3 months.

Ellio_98 wrote:

best infantry Anti-tank weapon of the war was German, the Panzerfaust.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Ellio_98 wrote:

best infantry Anti-tank weapon of the war was German, the Panzerfaust.

That is incorrect, a lot of the rockets did not work.

Maximilien wrote:

Rockets of Germany or Soviet Union?

Quasi-duck wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

Rockets of Germany or Soviet Union?

Rockets of the Panzerfaust. The Russians made sure there rockets worked

Maximilien wrote:

The arms of Soviet Union is better!

Quasi-duck wrote:

Maximilien wrote:

The arms of Soviet Union is better!

Totally. With any Soviet small arm, you could throw it the dirt for a year, come back and then kill the Germans with it.