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Which was the best army?

Good to all, my name is Jack, today I bring an interesting topic .Which was the best army of the Second World war?

In my opinion the best army of the Second World war was the Army of the USA and the British army, the prowesses realized by the American Army I surprise greatly,but what more I value, is the British resistance opposite to the German Army, the great resistance and dedication that the British soldiers did for a free and democratic Europe,it is for this motive, that in my opinion for me, the best army of the Second World war was the British Army.

And for you, which was is he the best army of the Second World war?

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Well I missed a lot in here. Seems like this thread had turned into a battlefield over some pages, everyone arguing on which army was better. They were all good some had those pluses and minuses and others had other pluses and minuses. Together all those armies fill each other up into a one heck of an Ally alliance and one less of a heck Axis alliance.

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't"
-George S. Patton
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- Albert Einstein

Dude gonna delete my posts lol seriously....clutter/off topic....tis treason for sure it tis...and for the record, I am 5-8, not angry at all, but online debates are nothing but striving over one anothers opinions and beliefs....


It is because of men like Stalin,&Hitler , that there is a place called Hell.

comrade dave wrote:

Pz.Korpz wrote:

Leave you with this fact...had Russians fought the full Wehrmacht ,the panzer divisions in reserves in Normandy and so on ...Russians would be speaking German today....The allies bought Russia the time to modernize it's peasant armee and so did the Russian winter once it set in.
*cough* D-day was jusT before operation bagration a soviet offensive that crushed German army group centre completely and pushed out of the Ukraine, land retaken after the siege of Stalingrad was lifted and the battle of Kursk had ended *cough*. Sore throat, sorry.
Better get that cough looked at..sounds serious and D-Day or not Wehrmacht was not full force on the eastern front as was Red Armee was in full force pushing west Sir Cough Drop

It is because of men like Stalin,&Hitler , that there is a place called Hell.

Pz.Korpz wrote:

etter get that cough looked at..sounds serious and D-Day or not Wehrmacht was not full force on the eastern front as was Red Armee was in full force pushing west Sir Cough Drop
I have to agree. The Russian army was not the best. They were poorly equip but had millions of troops to spare. Russia lost the most troops. Dont forget about the allied(mostly american) aid. At the end of the war they just rushed their millions at Germany. The reasons why US didnt want to mess with them afterwards is because the Russians still kept those millions around Berlin, while the Americans were returning home. Secondly, the british managed to hold off Germany during the battle over Britain because of their radar system, the Polish pilots they had, and the fact that it was on british soil rather than Germany. Most of the German planes could only stay for 20 mins at most before they had to return back.

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

Pz.Korpz wrote:

etter get that cough looked at..sounds serious and D-Day or not Wehrmacht was not full force on the eastern front as was Red Armee was in full force pushing west Sir Cough Drop
I have to agree. The Russian army was not the best. They were poorly equip but had millions of troops to spare. Russia lost the most troops. Dont forget about the allied(mostly american) aid. At the end of the war they just rushed their millions at Germany. The reasons why US didnt want to mess with them afterwards is because the Russians still kept those millions around Berlin, while the Americans were returning home. Secondly, the british managed to hold off Germany during the battle over Britain because of their radar system, the Polish pilots they had, and the fact that it was on british soil rather than Germany. Most of the German planes could only stay for 20 mins at most before they had to return back.
Wow Squiggles...I am impressed by your knowledge of the facts and history.....SALUTE!

It is because of men like Stalin,&Hitler , that there is a place called Hell.

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

Pz.Korpz wrote:

etter get that cough looked at..sounds serious and D-Day or not Wehrmacht was not full force on the eastern front as was Red Armee was in full force pushing west Sir Cough Drop
I have to agree. The Russian army was not the best. They were poorly equip but had millions of troops to spare. Russia lost the most troops. Dont forget about the allied(mostly american) aid. At the end of the war they just rushed their millions at Germany. The reasons why US didnt want to mess with them afterwards is because the Russians still kept those millions around Berlin, while the Americans were returning home. Secondly, the british managed to hold off Germany during the battle over Britain because of their radar system, the Polish pilots they had, and the fact that it was on british soil rather than Germany. Most of the German planes could only stay for 20 mins at most before they had to return back.
The Red Army exceeded in number, but was a no prepared and just unarmed army, were peasants, the Red Army was the army that suffered more casualties during the second world war, a total of 29,765,492. While the British Empire endured during 6 hard years continuous bombings and many adversities.

Jack Kennedy. wrote:

The Red Army exceeded in number, but was a no prepared and just unarmed army, were peasants, the Red Army was the army that suffered more casualties during the second world war, a total of 29,765,492. While the British Empire endured during 6 hard years continuous bombings and many adversities.
Exactly. Italy didnt play to well and Japan was too busy with China. One of Germany's biggest mistakes was allowing the allied troops to retreat from Dunkirk. If Germany defeated them there, it would have greatly affected the war for Britain and the allies. Another mistake was declaring war on the US when they had no need to.

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

One of Germany's biggest mistakes was allowing the allied troops to retreat from Dunkirk.
That's a bit of a misconception, while the overall assault on the Allied forces died down, it did not stop.

3 things happened to allow the escape from Dunkirk, first the German supply lines were to over extended to get fuel to the tanks in an efficient manner to continue a blitz, second when the Allied forces fled they left the roads cluttered with vehicles and that impaired German movement to Dunkirk and the area around Dunkirk was nearly impassable to the sheer amount of blockages in the roads, third some of the more zealous French soldiers acted as a rear guard around Dunkirk stalling any German units trying to move in and they bought the evac time, it is said that tie French forces in the rear guard fought like Spartans.

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

Jack Kennedy. wrote:

The Red Army exceeded in number, but was a no prepared and just unarmed army, were peasants, the Red Army was the army that suffered more casualties during the second world war, a total of 29,765,492. While the British Empire endured during 6 hard years continuous bombings and many adversities.
Exactly. Italy didnt play to well and Japan was too busy with China. One of Germany's biggest mistakes was allowing the allied troops to retreat from Dunkirk. If Germany defeated them there, it would have greatly affected the war for Britain and the allies. Another mistake was declaring war on the US when they had no need to.
Germany was obliged to declare war on the United States since they had an alliance with Japan. I think that the allies of Germany caused the defeat of Adolf.

Actually IronGuard...Germany did stop there attacks on retreats from Dunkirk...but for strafing them and sending in small amounts of JU88's...Germany was ran by over comfident leaders that actually believed they were unstoppable...like the raids on England by the luftwaffe ....sending in 100's of bombers that fighters couldn't protect due to range limits of bf109's ...they were piked off like flocks of geese by Hurricanes and spitfires while Goering was having picnics...


It is because of men like Stalin,&Hitler , that there is a place called Hell.

Jack Kennedy. wrote:

Stalin was a genocidal and committed great atrocities like the Holocaust against the Ukrainian people,and continuous purges carried out against the Russian people with the excuse that they were traitors.
The Holocaust against the Ukrainian people? Where did you get this? If you mean the Holodomor and related stories, then you should know that this is nonsense. These stories were invented by Ukrainian politicians to incite the Ukrainian nationalism just before the separation from Russia for something to justify the reasons for this separation. In fact, while in the Soviet Union there was a shortage of food (a lot of reasons, including because of the bad weather, which led to a poor harvest) which has led to major problems in weak segments of the population throughout the Soviet Union. In the future, all Ukrainians say that it was only in Ukraine, and that it was done deliberately in order that-be to kill them - but this is not true, this is a blatant lie.

Pz.Korpz wrote:

No kiddo it's a man on your case this time. If you guys want to support the Red armee as the best in WW2 that is your opinions and not so historical accurate. 1st the Red armee was not fighting 2 fronts and was not low on men and supplies and was not facing the German elements as was the Wehrmacht whom did not have U.S and British support to buy them time to regroup and mount a come back. And for the records..Stalin was a far greater evil than Hitler. he killed more civilians and starved more Russians than SS Germany could even come close to.
The Soviet Union in the war against Germany was a record - the longest land front line. From the shores of the Barents Sea to the Black Sea. And actually it was much more than a two-front (when compared to the war in Europe).

And I add - famine in Russia about which you say it was a completely different time and in no way relates to the theme of war.

GreatbigHippo wrote:

I'd say the most powerful army in WW2, (besides the Swiss) is the American army. They were a good all-around fighting force and provided the necessary support to their allies to win the war.
The US Army was good (not the best, but good). But the whole army sat at home and did nothing to fight with Germany. Their industry during this time has earned a lot of money on the sale of weapons and resources. At the end of their course the army began to operate, but it had a secondary role, while the dirty work done elsewhere.

Ellio_98 wrote:

Im a strong believer that Germany could of won the war if it was not for Hitler's mistakes and ego. He stopped the advance to moscow, which would of defeated USSR and attacked Stalingrad because it had stalin's name in it.
I agree with you. I think that if Germany did not attacking the Soviet Union, Britain has fallen after 180 days.

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

I have to agree. The Russian army was not the best. They were poorly equip but had millions of troops to spare. Russia lost the most troops. Dont forget about the allied(mostly american) aid. At the end of the war they just rushed their millions at Germany. The reasons why US didnt want to mess with them afterwards is because the Russians still kept those millions around Berlin, while the Americans were returning home.

Secondly, the british managed to hold off Germany during the battle over Britain because of their radar system, the Polish pilots they had, and the fact that it was on british soil rather than Germany. Most of the German planes could only stay for 20 mins at most before they had to return back.

You are wrong. Russia sent millions to the enemy only at the beginning of the war. That is why the German tactics of "armored blitzkrieg" was a big surprise for the Soviet generals, they did not know how to counter this tactic (nobody in the world knew how to resist it). In addition, Germany had a technique that was better. By the end of the war, we have had experience in dealing with the German tactics, and our industry has created a weapon that exceeded the German. At the end of the war we were fighting by small forces - against the German troops in the German fortresses and won. We used millionth Artillery shells and air bombs, but not people

Second British managed to hold Germany during the Battle of Britain is only thanks to the fact that Germany is not really wanted to capture Britain

Jack Kennedy. wrote:

The Red Army exceeded in number, but was a no prepared and just unarmed army, were peasants, the Red Army was the army that suffered more casualties during the second world war, a total of 29,765,492. While the British Empire endured during 6 hard years continuous bombings and many adversities.
Your figure is wrong. In fact, the loss of the Soviet Union were

26.6 million. However, 15.4 million of them are civilians who were killed by German troops had occupied the territories, and 4.4 million were killed by German troops in the death camps. Losses of soldiers on the battlefield - 6.8 million. Do you have any casualty figures of the German troops and their allies on the Eastern Front? If you start to study this topic more closely will see that the proportion of the losses is not much different.

Sandevot wrote:

Jack Kennedy. wrote:

Stalin was a genocidal and committed great atrocities like the Holocaust against the Ukrainian people,and continuous purges carried out against the Russian people with the excuse that they were traitors.
The Holocaust against the Ukrainian people? Where did you get this? If you mean the Holodomor and related stories, then you should know that this is nonsense. These stories were invented by Ukrainian politicians to incite the Ukrainian nationalism just before the separation from Russia for something to justify the reasons for this separation. In fact, while in the Soviet Union there was a shortage of food (a lot of reasons, including because of the bad weather, which led to a poor harvest) which has led to major problems in weak segments of the population throughout the Soviet Union. In the future, all Ukrainians say that it was only in Ukraine, and that it was done deliberately in order that-be to kill them - but this is not true, this is a blatant lie.

Pz.Korpz wrote:

No kiddo it's a man on your case this time. If you guys want to support the Red armee as the best in WW2 that is your opinions and not so historical accurate. 1st the Red armee was not fighting 2 fronts and was not low on men and supplies and was not facing the German elements as was the Wehrmacht whom did not have U.S and British support to buy them time to regroup and mount a come back. And for the records..Stalin was a far greater evil than Hitler. he killed more civilians and starved more Russians than SS Germany could even come close to.
The Soviet Union in the war against Germany was a record - the longest land front line. From the shores of the Barents Sea to the Black Sea. And actually it was much more than a two-front (when compared to the war in Europe).And I add - famine in Russia about which you say it was a completely different time and in no way relates to the theme of war.

GreatbigHippo wrote:

I'd say the most powerful army in WW2, (besides the Swiss) is the American army. They were a good all-around fighting force and provided the necessary support to their allies to win the war.
The US Army was good (not the best, but good). But the whole army sat at home and did nothing to fight with Germany. Their industry during this time has earned a lot of money on the sale of weapons and resources. At the end of their course the army began to operate, but it had a secondary role, while the dirty work done elsewhere.

Ellio_98 wrote:

Im a strong believer that Germany could of won the war if it was not for Hitler's mistakes and ego. He stopped the advance to moscow, which would of defeated USSR and attacked Stalingrad because it had stalin's name in it.
I agree with you. I think that if Germany did not attacking the Soviet Union, Britain has fallen after 180 days.

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

I have to agree. The Russian army was not the best. They were poorly equip but had millions of troops to spare. Russia lost the most troops. Dont forget about the allied(mostly american) aid. At the end of the war they just rushed their millions at Germany. The reasons why US didnt want to mess with them afterwards is because the Russians still kept those millions around Berlin, while the Americans were returning home.

Secondly, the british managed to hold off Germany during the battle over Britain because of their radar system, the Polish pilots they had, and the fact that it was on british soil rather than Germany. Most of the German planes could only stay for 20 mins at most before they had to return back.

You are wrong. Russia sent millions to the enemy only at the beginning of the war. That is why the German tactics of "armored blitzkrieg" was a big surprise for the Soviet generals, they did not know how to counter this tactic (nobody in the world knew how to resist it). In addition, Germany had a technique that was better. By the end of the war, we have had experience in dealing with the German tactics, and our industry has created a weapon that exceeded the German. At the end of the war we were fighting by small forces - against the German troops in the German fortresses and won. We used millionth Artillery shells and air bombs, but not people

Second British managed to hold Germany during the Battle of Britain is only thanks to the fact that Germany is not really wanted to capture Britain

Jack Kennedy. wrote:

The Red Army exceeded in number, but was a no prepared and just unarmed army, were peasants, the Red Army was the army that suffered more casualties during the second world war, a total of 29,765,492. While the British Empire endured during 6 hard years continuous bombings and many adversities.
Your figure is wrong. In fact, the loss of the Soviet Union were 26.6 million. However, 15.4 million of them are civilians who were killed by German troops had occupied the territories, and 4.4 million were killed by German troops in the death camps. Losses of soldiers on the battlefield - 6.8 million. Do you have any casualty figures of the German troops and their allies on the Eastern Front? If you start to study this topic more closely will see that the proportion of the losses is not much different.
The Ukrainian Holocaust is a true fact, like it or not, and it was a Holocaust planned by Stalin's Soviet regime, ukrainian peasant innocents died of hunger because of the actions of Stalin,Stalin was a genocidal unscrupulous.. the Soviet dictatorship was terrible,there was continuous purges...

When they invaded the Soviet Union, the Red Army was not prepared to fight against the Germans, the only experience that the Red Army had was the Russian civil war and the war with Finland...

A greeting.

Jack Kennedy. wrote:

The Ukrainian Holocaust is a true fact, like it or not, and it was a Holocaust planned by Stalin's Soviet regime, ukrainian peasant innocents died of hunger because of the actions of Stalin,Stalin was a genocidal unscrupulous.. the Soviet dictatorship was terrible,there was continuous purges...
You blindly believe in it, but I again want to explain to you - in fact, the famine was, but it was all over Western Europe and Asia. If someone says that the famine was only in Ukraine - it's not true. Secondly it is happening due to natural reasons - nobody did it on purpose. If you look at the political base of nationalist organizations that promote the territory of Ukraine, you will see a huge amount of nonsense and lies.

And this issue does not apply to the subject of this discussion. We are discussing the "best army" - do not try to change the subject.

Some of the junk Porshenko comes up with to try and make himself look like less of a terrible president during the Ukrainian civil war make Sandevot's point depressingly well made.

British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

What the hell are you guys on about, Soviets having bad tech? The IS series, T-34, KV line, AT rifles, Ppsh, Mosin-Nagant, Yaks, super heavy artillery that actually had a use. The Soviets were top dogs when it came to tanks and nearly top dog in the small arms section, definitely AT rifles.

The IS-3 was a terrifying beast that cowed Germans and Americans alike. It was one of the reasons Operation Unthinkable did not go ahead.

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...Sandevot...what are you even talking about lol...."The Soviet Union in the war against Germany was a record - the longest land front line. From the shores of the Barents Sea to the Black Sea. And actually it was much more than a two-front (when compared to the war in Europe).And I add - famine in Russia about which you say it was a completely different time and in no way relates to the theme of war."....


It is because of men like Stalin,&Hitler , that there is a place called Hell.

and stop calling me a German sour Kraut.....I am thankful Nazi Germany was defeated....not all Germans supported the evil that was in control of Deutschland....my family is Christian and also Pro-Jewish...I am sorry if I offended any of you guys but there are correct ways to reply to a debate without throwing little hints of belittling a person. :thumbsup:


It is because of men like Stalin,&Hitler , that there is a place called Hell.

Pz.Korpz wrote:

stop calling me a German sour Kraut
Isn't that slander?
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