Are you conscious of what you just said? You just said that the murder of 30 million people was justified.Butter Ball Bill wrote:
Stalin had a reason
1 Oct 2015, 18:26
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Which was the best army?
Good to all, my name is Jack, today I bring an interesting topic .Which was the best army of the Second World war?
In my opinion the best army of the Second World war was the Army of the USA and the British army, the prowesses realized by the American Army I surprise greatly,but what more I value, is the British resistance opposite to the German Army, the great resistance and dedication that the British soldiers did for a free and democratic Europe,it is for this motive, that in my opinion for me, the best army of the Second World war was the British Army.
And for you, which was is he the best army of the Second World war?
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1 Oct 2015, 18:27
Quite.Pablo22510 wrote:
You just said that the murder of 30 million people was justified.
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1 Oct 2015, 18:29
I'd like to see you watch your family get murdered, then get shot yourself. I doubt you'd think it was justified then. The murder of 30 million innocent people will never be justified.Butter Ball Bill wrote:
Quite.
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1 Oct 2015, 18:32
Well, yeah, but a lot were killed because of famines. 5 million died because another 5 million resisted collectivisation of their farms. Those kulaks, as they are called, technically killed 5 million. I hope you aren't including the casualties from WWII either. The kulaks died in Gulags because they were scum(I think anyway) who should've just followed orders from the man they voted into power.
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1 Oct 2015, 19:12
Lol, gulags. It's gulags.Butter Ball Bill wrote:
kulaks
I quote from research carried out "The number of deaths directly attributable to Stalin is around 20 million".
People who died in the gulags, people who were killed for simply opposing him, Jews too, the list goes on.
And the people that went ot the gulags were not the scum of the Earth. Many of them were royalists (or tzarists), and even if they voted Stalin into power, making mistakes is human, but Stalin was a ruthless bastard who listened to the people through the NKVD and collaborists and murdered anyone who dared disagree. Many German soldiers who went to the gulags had not done anything wrong (most of them were not SS) apart from fighting for their country. Read "Krieg ohne Hass" by Erwin Rommel. Great book. War without hate.
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1 Oct 2015, 19:14
*facepalms*
Alright, now I am officially right and anything you say makes you dumber. The gulags were prisons, the kulaks were the farmers sent to those prisons. Geez.
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1 Oct 2015, 19:15
Kulaks are a name for a group of Ukrainians I think Pedro. Gulags are uncle Joe's prisons.
British=best. Duh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk
1 Oct 2015, 19:16
Close. Farmers who owned farms in Russia during the five year plans that resisted collectivisation.comrade dave wrote:
Kulaks are a name for a group of Ukrainians I think Pedro
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1 Oct 2015, 19:17
And then died...
British=best. Duh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk
1 Oct 2015, 19:18
Yes. Their fault though, resistance was futile.
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1 Oct 2015, 19:20
Lol sorry.Butter Ball Bill wrote:
Alright, now I am officially right and anything you say makes you dumber. The gulags were prisons, the kulaks were the farmers sent to those prisons. Geez.
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1 Oct 2015, 19:21
Thank you.Pablo22510 wrote:
Lol sorry.
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1 Oct 2015, 19:21
BUt it still doesn't mean the murder of 20-30 million innocent people was justified.
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1 Oct 2015, 19:24
*facepalms again*Pablo22510 wrote:
BUt it still doesn't mean the murder of 20-30 million innocent people was justified.
So 5 mil from gulags doing to people not doing what their leader who they voted for told them to do and about 10-15 mil from famines that were out of Stalin's control and he tried his best to stop(which he did)? Yeah, it isn't fair to to think he is a bad person for that.
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1 Oct 2015, 19:28
He is a bad person for murdering Jews, Poles, Germans, intellectuals, people who disagreed with him, etc.
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1 Oct 2015, 19:30
So are Spaniards bad too for Franko killing people who didn't agree with him? How about your conquistadors who wiped out a few civilisations? The Brits? Americans? French? Portuguese?Pablo22510 wrote:
He is a bad person for murdering Jews, Poles, Germans, intellectuals, people who disagreed with him, etc.
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1 Oct 2015, 19:30
Was it moral? No. Was it necessary to consolidate power?
"A knight cannot save the world. They call certain methods of fighting good and others evil, acting as if there were some nobility to the battlefield."
"Honor? Glory? There's no point in speaking to a killer who indulges in such nonsense."
"It's a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated"
"Honor? Glory? There's no point in speaking to a killer who indulges in such nonsense."
"It's a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated"
1 Oct 2015, 19:31
Ever take a look at The Prince by Machiavelli? The book probably read by every leader in the modern era
"A knight cannot save the world. They call certain methods of fighting good and others evil, acting as if there were some nobility to the battlefield."
"Honor? Glory? There's no point in speaking to a killer who indulges in such nonsense."
"It's a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated"
"Honor? Glory? There's no point in speaking to a killer who indulges in such nonsense."
"It's a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated"
1 Oct 2015, 19:32
I didn't say Russians are bad. I said Stalin was.Butter Ball Bill wrote:
So are Spaniards bad too for Franko killing people who didn't agree with him? How about your conquistadors who wiped out a few civilisations? The Brits? Americans? French? Portuguese?
The past is a foreign country.
1 Oct 2015, 19:32
Yes. But it wasn't moral.aDudeWhoDoesThings wrote:
Was it moral? No. Was it necessary to consolidate power?
The past is a foreign country.
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