SO I just wanted to see the different opinion of other people. Please also state why you think this person is going to win the elections. Remember this is not about who you would like to win the election, but who do you think is going to win the elections. You have to vote to see the results, no cheating 
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What in tar-nation are you on about, Private?Merkir wrote:
America is currently preparing for a missile strike on us soil that will take out the power grid. Martial law will be declared and Obama will stay in office until the crisis is over or the US no longer stands.
Quasi-duck wrote:
What in tar-nation are you on about, Private?Merkir wrote:
America is currently preparing for a missile strike on us soil that will take out the power grid. Martial law will be declared and Obama will stay in office until the crisis is over or the US no longer stands.
Yea them leftest leaders often love all the power in the government and they dont like the constitution
so Id say that missile strike, will come from Obama!
That is a moronic statement.oceanhawk wrote:
so Id say that missile strike, will come from Obama!
either way...
thankfully sanders wont win his nomination.. it will be Hillary
I think General Mattis should run.
Why would we want to feel up on anyone? :O
NEVER!DxC wrote:
I can tell you guys are feeling the Bern
Trump probably win GOP's presidential primaries but in november in competition with Clinton he will lose. Of course best option is Bernie "Fell The Bern" Sander and John Kasich
He is not strong. He refused to serve. And got out of it.oceanhawk wrote:
It hurts me to say this...But I want Donald. J. Trump to win
he is awful, he is an orange...
He is however the only candidate that is strong..
He wont get walked over, he is a businessman with a good few successes although I dont think he will have a good popularity rating, but he wont get walked over, he will take a stand, he isnt into inner party politics
he is happy to say what others are afraid too
as well as he will actually do something in his first term, instead of planning for his second...
Im very Anti-Sanders... and for about 100000 different reasons
Im very Anti- Cruz...... and for about 10000 different reasons
Im very anti Hillary....... and for about 1000 different reasons
Im very anti Trump........ and for about 100 different reasons..
best of a bad batch.. a bad of the worst candidates..
Being a businessman does not qualify one for Office.
The majority of what he has done so far in buisness has failed.
He will support the rich, the wealthy, and his friends.
He is a centralist. He on policy is similar to Clinton to a lot of things, including Healthcare.
He goes and is super vague. By being vague, everybody in the crowd supports him. If he specifies a plan that only half agree with, only have the crowd would agree with him. So he instead chooses to be vague. And to appeal to his target audience.
He is into the wealth, rich, and powerful. Born into it.
Sanders believes in what he is. He believes in protecting people. And he has a good heart. And he has been on record been willingly to adapt or change ideas, if his doesn't work. (Basic income. Automation is coming, and the majority of jobs are going to be automated soon enough.).
Cruz is to much of the same old.
Hillary is just another of the same old corrupt tier. Trump is the same as them, but is not allied with them. You have two factions of corrupt to choose from.
If the cannidates are bad, you don't choose between the lesser of two evils. You still get evil. Which means the same stuff will still be done. And the country will still deteriate. It is a tad hard with the stupid two party dictatoship, gerrymandering, and other nonsense...But meh.
Though, it is a tad hilarious. The President doesn't have any actual power. Electing the President will not exactly change the fate of the United States. For those sort of policy decisions, look at Congress. Been electing the same congress for the past couple decades. Same things being done, same policies. If you want actual change, you just destroy the two party system, elect a new Congress, and go from there.
But it is so much more enjoyable to go on about the popular lightning rod(Figurehead), and what not. Between me and you, if Berny gets in :Nothing gets done. He won't be able to implement any of his policies. Hillary? More of the same Obama/Bush/Clinton/Reagan crap. Trump? At most the same as Hillary, and worst some Populist/Fascist things. He stands for that road. And that road, no matter how slight, is one I will stand against. The mistakes of nearly a century ago, of giving into populist leaders just to see them burn things down/Shake things up/I like them, has very bad consequences.
Cruz? More of the same. The reason I will support Bernie Sanders, is more than just that I agree with him on policy. He is from all appearances a decent man who at least cares. He may be unable to do anything, but the President is a symbol. And as the symbol I choose, I choose in the spirit of the founding fathers "Words", in Libery, in Justice, a man who stands for those very ideals. And symbols are powerful in themselves if people believe in him. The hope in Sanders is that his election can cause a chain reaction in Congress and the entire system, and bring a peaceful change, even if slow, and a revival of America. A second Theador Roosevelt, if you will, cracking down on the corrupt system and at least managing it and getting decency back into place. Or nothing at all.
But the election has already been decided by the national committees of the parties. We the people don't actually vote for the President. For America was not founded as a Democracy, nor as a Republic, but more of a Consitutional Republic? of the Rich and Wealthy...That slowly spread downwards, and is in a pile of mud and other ruckus that either needs to be actually cleaned up and setup right...Or it is all going to end up in a nasty mudslide. Or both.
I have spoken to my friends a lot about these issues. I agree completely with these statements, and anyone who doesn't think so, look at his trade policy. He touts that he "will bring jobs back from Mexico, China, Japan, and Vietnam" but as a businessman, which is another of his campaign promises, to "make good deals", he owns and operates factories in all of these countries.CzarHellios wrote:
By being vague, everybody in the crowd supports him. If he specifies a plan that only half agree with, only have the crowd would agree with him. So he instead chooses to be vague. And to appeal to his target audience.He is into the wealth, rich, and powerful. Born into it.
Yes, so I don't understand why people are saying he'll build a wall! Senate is controlled by the GOP, and the GOP will never let that slide so long as Trump is president. They're already to fed up with him. I won't go into detail.CzarHellios wrote:
Though, it is a tad hilarious. The President doesn't have any actual power. Electing the President will not exactly change the fate of the United States. For those sort of policy decisions, look at Congress. Been electing the same congress for the past couple decades. Same things being done, same policies. If you want actual change, you just destroy the two party system, elect a new Congress, and go from there.
Everything he inherited.. he lostCzarHellios wrote:
He is not strong. He refused to serve. And got out of it.Being a businessman does not qualify one for Office.oceanhawk wrote:
It hurts me to say this...But I want Donald. J. Trump to win
he is awful, he is an orange...
He is however the only candidate that is strong..
He wont get walked over, he is a businessman with a good few successes although I dont think he will have a good popularity rating, but he wont get walked over, he will take a stand, he isnt into inner party politics
he is happy to say what others are afraid too
as well as he will actually do something in his first term, instead of planning for his second...
Im very Anti-Sanders... and for about 100000 different reasons
Im very Anti- Cruz...... and for about 10000 different reasons
Im very anti Hillary....... and for about 1000 different reasons
Im very anti Trump........ and for about 100 different reasons..
best of a bad batch.. a bad of the worst candidates..
The majority of what he has done so far in buisness has failed.
He will support the rich, the wealthy, and his friends.
He is a centralist. He on policy is similar to Clinton to a lot of things, including Healthcare.
He goes and is super vague. By being vague, everybody in the crowd supports him. If he specifies a plan that only half agree with, only have the crowd would agree with him. So he instead chooses to be vague. And to appeal to his target audience.
He is into the wealth, rich, and powerful. Born into it.
Sanders believes in what he is. He believes in protecting people. And he has a good heart. And he has been on record been willingly to adapt or change ideas, if his doesn't work. (Basic income. Automation is coming, and the majority of jobs are going to be automated soon enough.).
Cruz is to much of the same old.
Hillary is just another of the same old corrupt tier. Trump is the same as them, but is not allied with them. You have two factions of corrupt to choose from.
If the cannidates are bad, you don't choose between the lesser of two evils. You still get evil. Which means the same stuff will still be done. And the country will still deteriate. It is a tad hard with the stupid two party dictatoship, gerrymandering, and other nonsense...But meh.
Though, it is a tad hilarious. The President doesn't have any actual power. Electing the President will not exactly change the fate of the United States. For those sort of policy decisions, look at Congress. Been electing the same congress for the past couple decades. Same things being done, same policies. If you want actual change, you just destroy the two party system, elect a new Congress, and go from there.
But it is so much more enjoyable to go on about the popular lightning rod(Figurehead), and what not. Between me and you, if Berny gets in :Nothing gets done. He won't be able to implement any of his policies. Hillary? More of the same Obama/Bush/Clinton/Reagan crap. Trump? At most the same as Hillary, and worst some Populist/Fascist things. He stands for that road. And that road, no matter how slight, is one I will stand against. The mistakes of nearly a century ago, of giving into populist leaders just to see them burn things down/Shake things up/I like them, has very bad consequences.
Cruz? More of the same. The reason I will support Bernie Sanders, is more than just that I agree with him on policy. He is from all appearances a decent man who at least cares. He may be unable to do anything, but the President is a symbol. And as the symbol I choose, I choose in the spirit of the founding fathers "Words", in Libery, in Justice, a man who stands for those very ideals. And symbols are powerful in themselves if people believe in him. The hope in Sanders is that his election can cause a chain reaction in Congress and the entire system, and bring a peaceful change, even if slow, and a revival of America. A second Theador Roosevelt, if you will, cracking down on the corrupt system and at least managing it and getting decency back into place. Or nothing at all.
But the election has already been decided by the national committees of the parties. We the people don't actually vote for the President. For America was not founded as a Democracy, nor as a Republic, but more of a Consitutional Republic? of the Rich and Wealthy...That slowly spread downwards, and is in a pile of mud and other ruckus that either needs to be actually cleaned up and setup right...Or it is all going to end up in a nasty mudslide. Or both.
He had to earn it all back, and he did..
he has a lot of failures, which is what I like, he has had failures and success. I do not like him,
Yes but we can chose what level of evil we want...
Sanders is the worst candidate..
Yes like many socialists he has good intentions, like the min wage, sounds like a nice idea.. just doesnt work, cos it hurts young people, and increases unemployment..
Ehh.. yea the president sits on the nukes, and can deploy the army.. yes It cant go to war.. but they can just say interviewee till congress get around
I am against calling the war of independence the american revolution, cos not much changed.. besides who run the show
still racism, etc
Id vote everyone else before Bernie sanders, even do Im a conservative, guess you would see I oppose him, I appose him even more because he would ruin the American economy.. not many can afford to pay 15bucks an hour
Like. tax the hell out of companies.. mate they will just leave..
Bernie how are the other socialist nations doing?
Venuzala?, North Korea? them seem to be doing great.. yes..
This is false, as far as I know. Congress has to support the war too.oceanhawk wrote:
can deploy the army.
Yes there is a difference between deploying troops and going to war...Quasi-duck wrote:
This is false, as far as I know. Congress has to support the war too.oceanhawk wrote:
can deploy the army.
if you actually read on, you would see that I said the President cannot take America to war, however can deploy troops.
America has only actually been in a state of war 5 times.
everywhere else was just troops being deployed/ intervention
Hm, I swear the troops and historians will call it war....oceanhawk wrote:
everywhere else was just troops being deployed/ intervention
Agree that Trump win's GOP,Defous wrote:
Trump probably win GOP's presidential primaries but in november in competition with Clinton he will lose. Of course best option is Bernie "Fell The Bern" Sander and John Kasich
Agree Clinton wins nomination by a landslide
Agree she wins the election as well
it wasQuasi-duck wrote:
Hm, I swear the troops and historians will call it war....oceanhawk wrote:
everywhere else was just troops being deployed/ intervention
but america was not technically in a state of war..
Are you saying that 50,000+ Americans and 400,000 - 1,000,000+ Vietnamese died for next to nothing?!oceanhawk wrote:
but america was not technically in a state of war..
Did I say that?...Quasi-duck wrote:
Are you saying that 50,000+ Americans and 400,000 - 1,000,000+ Vietnamese died for next to nothing?!oceanhawk wrote:
but america was not technically in a state of war..
no
they were not in a state of war.. no bill was past by congress...
America has been in a state of war 5 times...
1812...
Mexican-American war
Spanish-American war
WWI
WWII
Still at war, y'know? Not called the Vietnam War and Second Indochina War for nothing, eh?oceanhawk wrote:
they were not in a state of war..
Was a war between North and south Vietnam....Quasi-duck wrote:
Still at war, y'know? Not called the Vietnam War and Second Indochina War for nothing, eh?oceanhawk wrote:
they were not in a state of war..
America sent aid and intervened... according to the constitution they are not in a state of war...
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