Who do you think is going to win the USA's elections?

9 Mar 2016, 20:04

SO I just wanted to see the different opinion of other people. Please also state why you think this person is going to win the elections. Remember this is not about who you would like to win the election, but who do you think is going to win the elections. You have to vote to see the results, no cheating .

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13 Apr 2016, 17:10

oceanhawk wrote:
according to the constitution they are not in a state of war

So what were they doing, peacekeeping? When you have anti-war protests in Washington, you know it is war!

13 Apr 2016, 17:22

Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
according to the constitution they are not in a state of war
So what were they doing, peacekeeping? When you have anti-war protests in Washington, you know it is war!

are you ill?

then its a Military engagements authorized by Congress

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13 Apr 2016, 17:29

oceanhawk wrote:
then its a Military engagements authorized by Congress

Military engagements don't last years. By the by, you said the US was only in a state of war 5 times which were 1812, WWII and WWI and two other conflicts (what were those ones, by the by)?

oceanhawk wrote:
are you ill?

I'm ice cold, baby!

13 Apr 2016, 17:58

Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
then its a Military engagements authorized by Congress
Military engagements don't last years. By the by, you said the US was only in a state of war 5 times which were 1812, WWII and WWI and two other conflicts (what were those ones, by the by)?
oceanhawk wrote:
are you ill?
I'm ice cold, baby!

There is a difference between war and military engagement

the American President does not have the power to go to war.. a declaration of war must be voted through Congress

however the President has the power to deploy her armed forces...

1812

mexican-American war

American-Spanish war

WWI

WWII

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States#Declarations_of_war

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13 Apr 2016, 18:01

oceanhawk wrote:
There is a difference between war and military engagement
the American President does not have the power to go to war.. a declaration of war must be voted through Congress
however the President has the power to deploy her armed forces...
1812
mexican-American war
American-Spanish war
WWI
WWII

So are you saying those dead and injured men from the Gulf Wars didn't really fight a war? Bit harsh, considering they got screwed pretty bad and face horrible veteran stereotyping that harms everything, even job applications.

13 Apr 2016, 18:10

Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
There is a difference between war and military engagement
the American President does not have the power to go to war.. a declaration of war must be voted through Congress
however the President has the power to deploy her armed forces...
1812
mexican-American war
American-Spanish war
WWI
WWII
So are you saying those dead and injured men from the Gulf Wars didn't really fight a war? Bit harsh, considering they got screwed pretty bad and face horrible veteran stereotyping that harms everything, even job applications.

Yes.. their nation was never in a state of war... what part of that can you not understand.. like are you ill?

seriously.. I dont care anymore..

American congress never passed a war bill HENCE THEY WERE NOT IN WAR..

they died for their country.... doesnt matter if it was a war, intervention, or Military engagements authorized by Congress

like its a simple fact, that the Americans were not in a state of war.. Im not saying it

THE FLIPIN WORLD IS SAYING IT

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13 Apr 2016, 18:11

Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
according to the constitution they are not in a state of war
So what were they doing, peacekeeping? When you have anti-war protests in Washington, you know it is war!

Dude, I agree with oceanhawk. Of course they were at war, but not officially. Therefore, officially they weren't in a 'state of war'.

The past is a foreign country.

13 Apr 2016, 18:15

Pablo22510 wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
according to the constitution they are not in a state of war
So what were they doing, peacekeeping? When you have anti-war protests in Washington, you know it is war!
Dude, I agree with oceanhawk. Of course they were at war, but not officially. Therefore, officially they weren't in a 'state of war'

B doesnt get that for America to go to war

A BILL HAS TO PASS THROUGH CONGRESS....

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13 Apr 2016, 18:40

Pablo22510 wrote:
officially they weren't in a 'state of war'.

So, by your logic, Ireland is still in a state of war? Yours too Oceanhawk.

13 Apr 2016, 18:42

Quasi-duck wrote:
Pablo22510 wrote:
officially they weren't in a 'state of war'.
So, by your logic, Ireland is still in a state of war? Yours too Oceanhawk.

who would we be at war with?

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13 Apr 2016, 18:45

oceanhawk wrote:
who would we be at war with?

My bad, forgot the word civil.

13 Apr 2016, 18:53

Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
who would we be at war with?
My bad, forgot the word civil.

Ireland does not have the same constitution as America...

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13 Apr 2016, 18:55

oceanhawk wrote:
Ireland does not have the same constitution as America...

And? A peace treaty was never signed. Therefore, we must watch our tails for Irregulars.

13 Apr 2016, 19:36

Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Ireland does not have the same constitution as America...
And? A peace treaty was never signed. Therefore, we must watch our tails for Irregulars.

No, you mustn't. However, and I'm not sure, it's still in an official state of war. So it's officially at war, but isn't irl.

The past is a foreign country.

13 Apr 2016, 19:36

Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Ireland does not have the same constitution as America...
And? A peace treaty was never signed. Therefore, we must watch our tails for Irregulars.

okay well, a civil was is also different to other wars

Im not sure how it works here, but Im not sure if we need to pass a bill here..

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13 Apr 2016, 19:37

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13 Apr 2016, 19:40

Definitions of war: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/war

So according to what you said, USA constitution(not America because that's not a country at all) says that they can "kill people with love" in another country without getting involved in a war.

Taking this example, imagine Russia send tanks and army to US cities and the US Army fights against them, if your congress does not sign anything, you won't be in war, just playing a bit, is that correct?

Wars of EEUU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wars_involving_the_United_States

13 Apr 2016, 19:43

nemuritor98_ wrote:
Taking this example, imagine Russia send tanks and army to US cities and the US Army fights against them, if your congress does not sign anything, you won't be in war, just playing a bit.

Lol. Can't help but giggle.

13 Apr 2016, 19:50

I kinda want Trump to win for the banter

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13 Apr 2016, 19:52

Ellio_98 wrote:
I kinda want Trump to win for the banter

Lol, Canada will have immigration problems then. Last I heard a load of Americans said they will immigrate if Trump is elected.

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