Who do you think is going to win the USA's elections?

Quasi-duck wrote:

Ellio_98 wrote:

I kinda want Trump to win for the banter

Lol, Canada will have immigration problems then. Last I heard a load of Americans said they will immigrate if Trump is elected.

nemuritor98_ wrote:

Hope so.

Quasi-duck wrote:

nemuritor98_ wrote:

Hope so.

You hope for a mass immigration?

nemuritor98_ wrote:

Is difficult to explain.

Quasi-duck wrote:

nemuritor98_ wrote:

Is difficult to explain.

I understand. What I do know is that it will destroy the American economy.

In fact, it's not just the point of the money and the economy at all.

nemuritor98_ wrote:

In fact, it's not just the point of the money and the economy at all.

Quasi-duck wrote:

nemuritor98_ wrote:

In fact, it's not just the point of the money and the economy at all.

What do you mean?

nemuritor98_ wrote:

We're in the depression age. Many people is just "sleeping" and others decided not to get involved. The manipulation is very high we can see it when it's more important a member of a reality show being kicked than the education, culture or even common sense.

nemuritor98_ wrote:

Definitions of war: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/war

So according to what you said, USA constitution(not America because that's not a country at all) says that they can "kill people with love" in another country without getting involved in a war.

Taking this example, imagine Russia send tanks and army to US cities and the US Army fights against them, if your congress does not sign anything, you won't be in war, just playing a bit, is that correct?

Wars of EEUU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wars_involving_the_United_States

but numerator...

Look it up..

The President really has the power to invade another nation, as he can deploy troops to anywhere..

but they would just fight, without having a declaration of war..

I didn't make this up,

believe it or not, its part of this thing called the constitution

Also.. that list shows wars america was involved in, they might have sat the sidelines in some...

this is a better reference..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States

oceanhawk wrote:

Also.. that list shows wars america was involved in, they might have sat the sidelines in some...

this is a better reference..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Also.. that list shows wars america was involved in, they might have sat the sidelines in some...

this is a better reference..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States

After all that hate you spewed about Wikipedia and you still use it. You should be ashamed!

oceanhawk wrote:

I can just get a copy of the US constitution..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Clause

or here...

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

or to make it easier for you

I will just copy it..

Only congress has the power to go to war..

but still deploying a bunch of troops to a foreign land is really a war.. just not a state of war..

oceanhawk wrote:

nemuritor98_ wrote:

Definitions of war: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/war

So according to what you said, USA constitution(not America because that's not a country at all) says that they can "kill people with love" in another country without getting involved in a war.

Taking this example, imagine Russia send tanks and army to US cities and the US Army fights against them, if your congress does not sign anything, you won't be in war, just playing a bit, is that correct?

Wars of EEUU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wars_involving_the_United_States

In order for America to be in an offical state of war, a war bill must pass through Congress... I dont understand why this is very difficult to understand.. I can understand why @Quasi-duck doesnt understand, cos yea...

but numerator...

Look it up..

The President really has the power to invade another nation, as he can deploy troops to anywhere..

but they would just fight, without having a declaration of war..

I didn't make this up,

believe it or not, its part of this thing called the constitution

nemuritor98_ wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

nemuritor98_ wrote:

Definitions of war: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/war

So according to what you said, USA constitution(not America because that's not a country at all) says that they can "kill people with love" in another country without getting involved in a war.

Taking this example, imagine Russia send tanks and army to US cities and the US Army fights against them, if your congress does not sign anything, you won't be in war, just playing a bit, is that correct?

Wars of EEUU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wars_involving_the_United_States

In order for America to be in an offical state of war, a war bill must pass through Congress... I dont understand why this is very difficult to understand.. I can understand why @Quasi-duck doesnt understand, cos yea...but numerator...

Look it up..

The President really has the power to invade another nation, as he can deploy troops to anywhere..

but they would just fight, without having a declaration of war..

I didn't make this up,

believe it or not, its part of this thing called the constitution

I'll make you understand our point. Go to any match in Call of War, try to deploy troops in another country and fight with it without a declaration of war. Guess what, you can't. Declarations of war are just a paper, who cares about a paper, is that more important than killing people? Freaking awesome.

The power of the President to go "Deploy troops", "Interventions", or the like also comes from Congress. And can be revoked by Congress. War is War, though they have a lot of little loopholes and bills thrown around to give the President a bit of leeway.

In regards to the Vietnam war, every single American soldier died in vain. South Vietnam collapsed. North Vietnan unified the country, against American interests. American goals were not achieved.

It is somewhat fun watching Berny Sanders win nearly every single vote, but Hillary getting the delegates. While on the Republican side, Trump winning the votes, but Cruzey getting delegates appointed to him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4ep7cv/the_system_is_rigged_widespread_dissatisfaction/

CzarHellios wrote:

The power of the President to go "Deploy troops", "Interventions", or the like also comes from Congress. And can be revoked by Congress. War is War, though they have a lot of little loopholes and bills thrown around to give the President a bit of leeway.

In regards to the Vietnam war, every single American soldier died in vain. South Vietnam collapsed. North Vietnan unified the country, against American interests. American goals were not achieved.

It is somewhat fun watching Berny Sanders win nearly every single vote, but Hillary getting the delegates. While on the Republican side, Trump winning the votes, but Cruzey getting delegates appointed to him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4ep7cv/the_system_is_rigged_widespread_dissatisfaction/

oceanhawk wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Clause

or here...

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

or to make it easier for you

I will just copy it..

Spoiler

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.