Unfortunately.oceanhawk wrote:
The F-35 will replace the US Air Force A-10s and F-16s, US Navy F/A-18s, US Marine Corps Harriers and F/A-18s, and UK Harrier GR7s and Sea Harriers.
Who would win?
This is a thread meant to discuss people/nations/animals pitted against each other.
First topic, who do you think would win in a war between US and UK vs Russia and China?
Rules for this battle
1. No nukes
2. no other countries can help militarily in anyway
3. They start with current resources, military, economy etc
4. war is won whenever the other side surrenders
ahem.. here's the quote:
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light."
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This makes no sense.GreatbigHippo wrote:
You're right, if more soldiers die there would be less unemployment because you'd have to hire people to replace them.
very sad indeed, especially when every single aircraft there, is superior to the F-35, in every single wayPablo22510 wrote:
Unfortunately.oceanhawk wrote:
The F-35 will replace the US Air Force A-10s and F-16s, US Navy F/A-18s, US Marine Corps Harriers and F/A-18s, and UK Harrier GR7s and Sea Harriers.
The idea of making an Aircraft, for all 3 branches was stupid, the marines like the STOVL, and the navy want normal carrier based aircraft, all diverting from the Air force requirements. Rubbish idea, Really is,

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The Marines only want STOVL because they have dreams of having CAS planes that can support them with the landing area the same size as one for a helicopter.oceanhawk wrote:
The idea of making an Aircraft, for all 3 branches was stupid, the marines like the STOVL, and the navy want normal carrier based aircraft, all diverting from the Air force requirements. Rubbish idea, Really is,
Well, F-35: the downfall of the USAF.
Really, they got hooked on that idea, because of the British HarriersQuasi-duck wrote:
The Marines only want STOVL because they have dreams of having CAS planes that can support them with the landing area the same size as one for a helicopter.oceanhawk wrote:
The idea of making an Aircraft, for all 3 branches was stupid, the marines like the STOVL, and the navy want normal carrier based aircraft, all diverting from the Air force requirements. Rubbish idea, Really is,

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
Nah, it was before that, since WWII when they got slaughtered in the Pacific. That is why they bought the Harrier. They couldn't use it the way they wanted to though because dirt would jam the engines.oceanhawk wrote:
Really, they got hooked on that idea, because of the British Harriers
They didnt really get slaughtered in the pacific, I think they actually had the biggest K/D ratio of the war.Quasi-duck wrote:
Nah, it was before that, since WWII when they got slaughtered in the Pacific. That is why they bought the Harrier. They couldn't use it the way they wanted to though because dirt would jam the engines.oceanhawk wrote:
Really, they got hooked on that idea, because of the British Harriers

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
No, one landing, they were shot to pieces and couldn't get CAS on the line.oceanhawk wrote:
They didnt really get slaughtered in the pacific, I think they actually had the biggest K/D ratio of the war.
Of course they had a high K/D, all you need to say is "Tenno Heika Banzai".
Im not following here, they couldnt get CAS on the line, because the aircraft were not VTOL?Quasi-duck wrote:
No, one landing, they were shot to pieces and couldn't get CAS on the line.oceanhawk wrote:
They didnt really get slaughtered in the pacific, I think they actually had the biggest K/D ratio of the war.Of course they had a high K/D, all you need to say is "Tenno Heika Banzai".

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
No, the Navy couldn't provide 'em so they wanted their own VTOL CAS aircraft.oceanhawk wrote:
Im not following here, they couldnt get CAS on the line, because the aircraft were not VTOL?
But why are you saying they wanted VTOL in the first place?, back in ww2..Quasi-duck wrote:
No, the Navy couldn't provide 'em so they wanted their own VTOL CAS aircraft.oceanhawk wrote:
Im not following here, they couldnt get CAS on the line, because the aircraft were not VTOL?

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
Look, ignore the term VTOL.oceanhawk wrote:
But why are you saying they wanted VTOL in the first place?, back in ww2..
Marines wanted an aircraft that could take off and land anywhere, will giving CAS like Navy aircraft.
Alri I get ya know, but sure the navy was already provinding CAS in that region, during the war..Quasi-duck wrote:
Look, ignore the term VTOL.oceanhawk wrote:
But why are you saying they wanted VTOL in the first place?, back in ww2..Marines wanted an aircraft that could take off and land anywhere, will giving CAS like Navy aircraft

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
I know, but during this landing, there was trouble and they couldn't get CAS.oceanhawk wrote:
Alri I get ya know, but sure the navy was already provinding CAS in that region, during the war..
are you reffering to a single event?Quasi-duck wrote:
I know, but during this landing, there was trouble and they couldn't get CAS.oceanhawk wrote:
Alri I get ya know, but sure the navy was already provinding CAS in that region, during the war..

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
Yes.oceanhawk wrote:
are you reffering to a single event?
okay, I seeQuasi-duck wrote:
Yes.oceanhawk wrote:
are you reffering to a single event?

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
Which one? 'Cos although they might have taken some heavy casualties at Iwo Jima, they still had the highest K/D ratio of the war, and they had some major successes.Quasi-duck wrote:
Yes.oceanhawk wrote:
are you reffering to a single event?
I actually forgot the name of the battle, all I know is that they were slaughtered on the beaches with no CAS. Ring a bell?Pablo22510 wrote:
Which one? 'Cos although they might have taken some heavy casualties at Iwo Jima, they still had the highest K/D ratio of the war, and they had some major successes.
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