Would Hitler suck at Call of War?

oh and about the initial question: first question we should answer is "would he be interested in a computer game?" Surprisingly, I think he might be... he liked maps, and abstractions/simplifications of complicated military matters. He was also a bum with loads of time at his hands in the 1900-1914 era, so he could have been very active and succesfull.

Once he became active in the Nazi party in the early 1920's, he would have been lost for the game though.

Some tongue-in-cheek attributes of his play style:

- Early attacks on everything bordering him, that looks even slightly stupid or inactive, and taking it in no time;

- Able to switch fronts at an amazing speed;

- Considering about ten conquered provinces also "core" and bickering to staff that the "occupied" penalties shouldn't apply there;

- Not bothering to rebuild all other conquered territories, only constructing buildings in core provinces (though producing units in occupied lands when possible);

- Never retreating units, even if the advancing enemy is ten times stronger;

- A disgust for merging units. After all, two 20% tanks are still two units; one 40% is only one;

- Attempting to build forts when enemy units are just an hour away;

- Declaring a particular useful unit "Jewish" and refusing to use it (for example AT).

K.Rokossovski wrote:

This was at a point when Germany was very irritated about the way the American navy handled the the U-boat blockade of Britain. They were escorting the convoys heading for Britain further and further into the Atlantic, making the time that U-boats could actually attack shipping shorter and shorter, with British navy free to handle only the last few hundred miles.

The declaration after Pearl Harbor was a solidarity thing (even though Japan didn't show much interest in German interests, for example by staying out of the German-USSR conflict which allowed Siberian troops to be relocated to Europe), it was also a short-term thought. When you look at stats of merchant shipping sunk by U-boats, there's a huge spike in the first half of 1942. This was because the U-boats could also sink American shipping now, including areas like the Carribean. US Navy also was unprepared and had trouble implementing the convoy system, German leadership had foreseen this, but had overestimated the effect: they thought they could cripple the American economy in this way, failing to realize that America is a solid continent with most of the economical and transport systems landlocked. Finally, they had contempt for the American army size (which was virtually nil in early 1942), and simply didn't believe (indeed couldn't even comprehend the possibility) that the Americans might field an army of millions in just a few years.

K.Rokossovski wrote:

oh and about the initial question: first question we should answer is "would he be interested in a computer game?" Surprisingly, I think he might be... he liked maps, and abstractions/simplifications of complicated military matters. He was also a bum with loads of time at his hands in the 1900-1914 era, so he could have been very active and succesfull.

Once he became active in the Nazi party in the early 1920's, he would have been lost for the game though.

Some tongue-in-cheek attributes of his play style:

- Early attacks on everything bordering him, that looks even slightly stupid or inactive, and taking it in no time;

- Able to switch fronts at an amazing speed;

- Considering about ten conquered provinces also "core" and bickering to staff that the "occupied" penalties shouldn't apply there;

- Not bothering to rebuild all other conquered territories, only constructing buildings in core provinces (though producing units in occupied lands when possible);

- Never retreating units, even if the advancing enemy is ten times stronger;

- A disgust for merging units. After all, two 20% tanks are still two units; one 40% is only one;

- Attempting to build forts when enemy units are just an hour away;

- Declaring a particular useful unit "Jewish" and refusing to use it (for example AT).

F. Marion wrote:

Declaring war on the US was utter folly for Hitler/Germany. In less than 6 months he had declared war on the USSR and the USA. I can think of no faster path to defeat than that.

MontanaBB wrote:

F. Marion wrote:

Declaring war on the US was utter folly for Hitler/Germany. In less than 6 months he had declared war on the USSR and the USA. I can think of no faster path to defeat than that.

Even before significant numbers of American soldiers engaged the Wehrmacht on the European continent, the United States began sending massive amounts of war materiel to the Soviet Union -- notably including, but not limited to aircraft, trucks, locomotives -- that helped keep the Red Army in fight during the darkest time on the Eastern Front. Even Stalin acknowledged that American Lend-Lease aid to the Soviets was critical.

With all the gold he stole? he would be unbeatable!

LOL

Juan Bertin wrote:

What strategies would he have?

Please keep swears off the forum

Juan Bertin wrote:

It has been written that Adolf Hitler thought he was a military genius. Suppose one of the Boys From Brazil got into playing Call of War. Assuming Senor Hitler is the same person as Der Fuhrer, would Hitler be any good? What strategies would he have?

Juan Bertin wrote:

Assuming Senor Hitler is the same person as Der Fuhrer, would Hitler be any good? What strategies would he have?

He would write in repeatedly to the forum suggesting New Buildings of which he would push for the following

1. Concentration Camp - 10% morale boost for the city in which it is built, plus ability to speed up concentration of all other buildings due to the additional available labour

2. Gestapo Headquarters - equipped with torture chambers to give increased probability of success to all counter-espionage operations in the city

He would rush into multiple wars at once, catching them by hammer and anvil. He'd also choose the wrong allies. He would devote many resources to the wrong things early, such as rockets and nukes, instead of harsh conditions that he would face in Russia.

He would have early victories, get over confident then try and take over ALL of Europe in one war. He would constantly argue with his generals (tutorial advisers) and end up losing the war.

Hitler, a self proclaimed military genius and raving mad man.

But not a confirmed Military Genius

What I believe:

- Given the fact he loves micromanaging stuff, I think he would do all those plane ticks and stuff

- Would definitely argue a lot of how buildings are limited

- Heavy tac bomber and rocket person

- golder? Hey, Hitler would want to win EVERY SINGLE GAME he's in

- Not really a tactical genius, but would definitely focus troops in Poland first

- Maybe do the exact same thing in WWII (unless he learnt his lesson)

- Since Italy and Japan aren't a must to his alliances, he maybe would attack Italy

- Would definitely get overconfident

- Lose Battle of Britain? I don't think so. Depends on competence on opponents and gold usage

- Spam subs, planes, tanks (when obviously in any map Germany has really bad oil production)

He would stay up all night long playing, much like many. I believe he would invade the Soviet Union after taking most of the rest of Western Europe. Adolf Hitler just didn't concern himself enough with the United States. this was acknowledged by his general staff many times. The Staff concluded that Hitler's Map didn't have any portion of the Western hemisphere.. In the beginning Adolf just didn't see the economic threat or the logistical support the west could bring later in the war.

Hitler would indeed delegate most of his military decisions early in the war to his staff. His mantra was to spread National Socialism to the world by force while gaining territories and massive expansion. He would be frustrated that there was not a genocide feature to the game.

As the countries unite against him as they did in real life he would just take out his revenge with nukes until he attained a third place victory...

Little Racoon wrote:

What I believe:

- Given the fact he loves micromanaging stuff, I think he would do all those plane ticks and stuff

- Would definitely argue a lot of how buildings are limited

- Heavy tac bomber and rocket person

- golder? Hey, Hitler would want to win EVERY SINGLE GAME he's in

- Not really a tactical genius, but would definitely focus troops in Poland first

- Maybe do the exact same thing in WWII (unless he learnt his lesson)

- Since Italy and Japan aren't a must to his alliances, he maybe would attack Italy

- Would definitely get overconfident

- Lose Battle of Britain? I don't think so. Depends on competence on opponents and gold usage

- Spam subs, planes, tanks (when obviously in any map Germany has really bad oil production)

I also think your points on invading Poland first is a bit too simple. Poland was invaded because militarily, in 1939, Germany still didn't have the capabilities to conquer countries like France and Britain, while Poland was significantly weaker. In CoW, where in normal games everyone starts in about the same position, Hitler would choose to sweep France quickly and threaten Britain with it.

Hitler would definitely be a very aggressive player, and you are right in pointing out he would use any means necessary to win, which would mean a large amount of gold used. However, declaring war on all fronts would be too unrealistic. Germany would likely leave Italy alone in the beginning due to "ideology", but perhaps Hitler would see Sweden, a country bordered by only one other player (Finland), as a threat.

Now, two-years-ago me, I believe you were correct on quite a few of your points, but some need further elaboration and change.