Anti Air combat vs ground units

The X factor (randomization) derails calculations like this completely. They can only be used as averages for large amounts of battles, never for individual ones.

Is the X factor enhanced for AA?

All other units seem to be within a reasonable variation.

AA's always seem to outfight their specs. Noticed this in every game I've played.

They never seem to X-factor to their detriment...

suntso wrote:

AA's always seem to outfight their specs.

It does indeed seem that AA are harder to kill than they should be. When they are just a small part of a larger group the damage distribution does end up applying more damage to the unit types with more hit points in a stack, so the low hit points and small numbers work for them that way.

suntso wrote:

the AA should defend with 1.0 + .15 for home ground.

A Lv2 Lt tank attacks with 3.0, on plains that is 4.5

Ah, right, the home defence reduces damage, not increase attack...

I'm also assuming that attack values are reduced equal to the unit condition.

Also assuming that condition means percent of HP remaining?

suntso wrote:

Ah, right, the home defence reduces damage, not increase attack...

suntso wrote:

attack values are reduced equal to the unit condition.

suntso wrote:

Also assuming that condition means percent of HP remaining?

VorlonFCW wrote:

The units in their own core are 15% stronger and are 15% protected from damage.

VorlonFCW wrote:

suntso wrote:

AA's always seem to outfight their specs.

AA actually did an incredible amount of damage to enemy ground units during WW2, so that is historically accurate at least.

It does indeed seem that AA are harder to kill than they should be. When they are just a small part of a larger group the damage distribution does end up applying more damage to the unit types with more hit points in a stack, so the low hit points and small numbers work for them that way.

suntso wrote:

the AA should defend with 1.0 + .15 for home ground.

A Lv2 Lt tank attacks with 3.0, on plains that is 4.5

Another factor is that the home defense gives a 15% damage reduction similar to a fortification. This brings your 4.5 attack back down to 3.85 at the most, with the x factor reducing it further.

Is the range of the X-factor known?

ie; -10% to +10%

Does it apply to attacker or defender values or is there a different x-factor generated for both?

suntso wrote:

Is the range of the X-factor known?

ie; -10% to +10%

Does it apply to attacker or defender values or is there a different x-factor generated for both?

>> forum.callofwar.com/index.php?thread/26447-try-this-as-a-little-battle-problem << :

freezy wrote:

There is no lower or upper limit implemented for the so called "x-factor", which is basically following a bell curve. Although the chance is veeeeery small (maybe as low as 0.01%), extreme results like no visible damage dealt or multiple times the damage dealt may happen. Maybe they only happen in 1 of 10000 cases, but still they can. And we remember of course much more these extreme occurences then the usual combat results where everything goes as expected. I wouldn't call it bug, it's just how the calculations were set up. One could argue that this is realistic, as also in war sometimes surprising or unexpected events happened. From a players's perspective who tries to understand everying it is of course not the most optimal way, but we have to deal with it until one day we perhaps rewrite the logic.