Anti Air vs Heavy Armor

This was kinda similar in World War II. Germans often used their anti aircraft guns in battle. German anti tank guns were unable to pierce the armor of the Soviet T-34 and KV-1's. However, they were able to do so with their anti air guns which had a much larger caliber. The anti aircraft gun was both used in the Western Front and the Eastern Front. Probably intentional.

The level 5 AA gun is a 12.8cm Flak 40 gun, wich was used as an anti tank gun

German AA guns were the same guns as AT guns. This was part of why Britain's bombing raids on the Ruhr were so damaging to germany on the east, it forced germany to take AT guns away to be used for AA.

Andromeda wrote:

Hello, I'm playing a 1.5 clash of nations game as Finland (axis doctorine). About a week or so into the game, Ukraine attacks me. He was using lots of tactical & attack bombers, so I started making some AA and leveling it up. While I rarely use regular AA, I noticed that a stack of 5 of these (level 5 AA) was successful at destroying 2 of his heavy tanks (level 2). I was surprised, then noticed the AA's fight value against heavy armor, especially for defending against them. Did the devs intend this? Was this similar in WW2? I am curious, I want answers...

Its gun was used in the Tiger tank.

Rommel could not have done what he did in North Africa without it.

Heinrici wrote:

Andromeda wrote:

Hello, I'm playing a 1.5 clash of nations game as Finland (axis doctorine). About a week or so into the game, Ukraine attacks me. He was using lots of tactical & attack bombers, so I started making some AA and leveling it up. While I rarely use regular AA, I noticed that a stack of 5 of these (level 5 AA) was successful at destroying 2 of his heavy tanks (level 2). I was surprised, then noticed the AA's fight value against heavy armor, especially for defending against them. Did the devs intend this? Was this similar in WW2? I am curious, I want answers...

Well the German 88 AA gun was available from the beginning of the war and the Germans built over 20k of them throughout the war.

Its gun was used in the Tiger tank.

Rommel could not have done what he did in North Africa without it.

Interesting. Maybe i should use AA more. Thats sparked my interest, imma attempt an entire invasion mainly with AA

*heavy tank reegiments crashing anti air*

The base defense rate for AA against Heavies is already pretty nice. Now add the Axis damage bonus and the 15% AA bonus and it is a solid defense against Medium tank spam! And cheaper!

While the German 88 is famous for being both anti-air and anti-tank, it was really the case of the heavy AA from all countries whose tanks were undergunned : Italy, British, Japan (which used a German 88 copy), even Soviet.

The Italian Cannone de 90/53 was even more efficient in that dual role than the 88' but of course way less were built.

The British used their QF 3.7 inch in AT role in the Desert War as well as part of the doctrine, after that their tanks and tank destroyers picked-up in terms of caliber.

Just like the other countries, the Soviet also used their 90mm in both roles, but in general early war their tanks were gunned properly (even overgunned, like the T-26) to destroy enemy tanks, so they did not HAVE to do this.

The only major powers not to do it THAT much were the US and France.