Dealing with big stack

If they are patrolling, then they will take damage from the AA. If they are attacking the enemy planes, I think they will not (not sure on that)

What’s his remaining troop count

In his city. What does the stack of land units contain?

its not a great idea to attack patrolling planes.

Yeah that's the problem and I don't know if I should risk it

all ans at the same time lol

Oh I got it! Bomb the base which the bombers are operating from!

godofthegame2 wrote:

What’s his remaining troop count

In his city. What does the stack of land units contain?

Not a lot I know but those planes will hit hard on my troops

whowh wrote:

Oh I got it! Bomb the base which the bombers are operating from!

So attack the base that the planes are operating from.

directly attack the patrolling planes or destroy airbase. I once had a situation where a guy took 50 or so units and hid in his core lvl 5 fort city, had to research and produce RRGs for that

max_vallot wrote:

3 anti air , 2 anti tank, 1 armored car, 1 arty, 3 infantry, 1 motorized infantry

second option, 8 interceptor, patrol them in a part of the enemy patrol area but make sure that the enemy ground units aren't at all in your patrol circle. Once the planes have been killed you move in that 6 rocket arty and shoot the crap out of it. Should be done fast as all his units are unarmoured.

I recommend that you surround this city, and as in medieval times, which surrounded the castle until they ran out of resources and surrender. Do the same, but the difference is that when you have stronger troops you can kill him, he will not be able to produce due to lack of resources. This is the best option.

The player is inactive and in two days he goes AI so your suggestion isn't an option.

BMfox wrote:

O jogador está inativo e em dois dias ele se transforma em IA, então sua sugestão não é uma opção.

Arty... attack from range without taking damage...

Rockets... Attack from range without taking damage...

Near a shoreline... Bombard with BB's... which attack from range without taking damage....

Wait for AI to take over... and aI will break up the stack trying to claim land in the surrounding area... allowing you to take out smaller chunks...

So many options...

OneNutSquirrel wrote:

Arty... attack from range without taking damage...

Rockets... Attack from range without taking damage...

max_vallot wrote:

Here's the situation

I've almost finished a guy but now he's put all his remaining troops in a city (anti air and artillery included) and his planes are patrolling the city (6 tactical bombers, 3 attack bombers and an interceptor)

How can I deal with this?

Is it possible to send my interceptors attack his planes without being attacked by the anti air?

We're only day 6 so I can't afford losing troops

OneNutSquirrel wrote:

Arty... attack from range without taking damage...

Rockets... Attack from range without taking damage...

Near a shoreline... Bombard with BB's... which attack from range without taking damage....

Wait for AI to take over... and aI will break up the stack trying to claim land in the surrounding area... allowing you to take out smaller chunks...

So many options...

Battleships are situational, as you can't always use them all the time. Especially in this update you'll need to dedicate more resources to its support as well since it can't fend off anything other than convoys and other ships at sea.

Rockets just take so much rare material, where you could spend that same rare material for rocket arty, in which that is more cost effective.

Every plane needs to refuel at some point. Once France attacked me when I invaded Poland. He had a large Air Force. However, what I simply did was when his planes flew back to refuel. My tactical bombers simply followed his returning aircraft. I bombed his planes when they were refueling. Causing over 8/10 of the hit points to be immedietly exhausted. With his forces vulnurable I turned my planes on his ground units. After I destroyed most of his front line troops. He tried to plug the gap, but my troops quickly exploited it. I destroyed reinforcements that were trying to assist him. UK tried to bomb me too, I just simply used the same strategy on him. Afterwards I had taken Paris and France agreed to surrender.

The easiest way is to wait for better units to attack him. If you take any other land he has, he will run out of resources (most likely) and be unable to improve his army in any way. Missing 1 non-core city isn't a large issue, but your military will be there, possibly giving others extra time to expand and gain an advantage over you. That means it's better to let him sit there and make it look like your entire army is around, well using part of it for expanding. Then, you can make a force to destroy him (a lot of rocket artillery, or a stack of 10 motorized infantry, etc).

Using a rocket to hit the airport and disable the planes would also be a great move but make sure his airport is not high level and that there are few buildings in the airport province.

If there is more buildings but the airport is lv1 you could make a few rockets instead of one, but send them one by one, not together. As only some buildings are chosen to take damage when a rocket battery hits, if you sent all rockets at once, they may end up dealing large damage to other buildings but leaving the airport untouched. This chance is reduced to the Xth root of itself when X rocket batteries hit individually.

Info about large stacks in general:

There is a frequent myth that large stacks are less effective. Not really true though.

If an army is greater than 10, the game uses the top 10 units with the highest damage against an armour class to determine the damage output against that armour class. So you could still have more than 10 units contributing to the fight - different units making up the damage values against different armour classes in the enemy army. (example: a stack of 10 tactical and 10 attack bombers will have the damage of 10 attack bombers against tank armour class and the damage of 10 tactical bombers against the infantry one).

If we were speaking of a fight of identical units (like 100 tanks - army A against 10 tanks - army B), only 10 tanks will be doing damage from each group. That means both groups will have the same damage output, and so army A should win with 90% hp left (assuming we have no RNG of course).

However, this isn't quite true either. The lower the health percentage of a unit is, the less damage that unit deals. As army A has 10x more health than army B, the health percentage of army A will fall 10x slower, and so will its damage efficiency. So, over time army B's damage will decrease 10x faster, resulting in army A winning with 93% hp left.

All this means large stacks are actually more effective in battle. This doesn't mean everyone should make them, though. If you make huge stacks, it allows the enemy to sneak through behind your lines and disable airports, damage production buildings or your economy. Losing a large stack is a large loss naturally, so you also have to include a lot of unit types to counter any enemy counterattack, which usually results in the stack being... sloowww. And that gives your enemy an opportunity to prepare, and in extreme cases, you may find out your army is technologically outdated by the time it arrives on the battlefield D)

On the other side, with smaller stacks it's okay to separate raiding groups, specialized in picking off reinforcements and capturing the enemy's important provinces, and you can even build an army based on fast units only (Medium tank + mech infantry + SP Artillery and such). Such army compositions are counterable, but as they're fast your enemy might not have the time to react with a counter. That's the point of Blitzkrieg, which is kind of the opposite of desperate stacking.

Excuse me for using the term "stack", Gral Anibal is already imagining piles of tanks I'm sure. Just used to it. Lol.

As the Russians said about arty - "quantity has a quality all of its own"