Do Railway Gun stack counter strategies exist?

Yes I am very cool indeed

Nukes suck

Nukes have saved so many of my games it’s not even funny! Like the time I destroyed 30 max level strategic bombers. It’s also our nukes that once won us an WAW against an enemy with similar numbers but closer to the frontline. 10/10 would nuke again

If you're at the point in the game where nukes are actually in play you've probably done something wrong along the way. Save the research costs and time and upgrade your existing units instead.

Well these are on huge maps with decent players in the late game. I’m not talking CON here lol. It’s more fun when the game lasts longer anyway rather than just steamrolling everyone like usual.

I'm talking about WaW

Maybe nukes could come into play in HWW if you start as a small country, since it takes time to ramp up and the map starts with 6 days of research

To the original point of the thread, if your RRG solution is "build nukes" you've either already lost or you're playing against an idiot and don't need nukes to beat them. Either way, nukes aren't the answer

WaW? I guess I am slow or something since the WaWs I play usually last long enough for nukes to come into play. RRG stacks are slow as well so it kinda works out. It’s true though that nukes met of the time won’t be the solution-they either won’t be used or be ready by the time your war would conclude.

jubjub bird wrote:

To the original point of the thread, if your RRG solution is "build nukes" you've either already lost or you're playing against an idiot and don't need nukes to beat them. Either way, nukes aren't the answer

To the original point of this thread, I highly doubt that an idiot would have a RRG stack with meat shields and AA and no one here can have a solid solution to counter it.

If nukes and mass stacks are a waste of resources what would be the solution then?If it's a defensive stack you won't be able to lure it out to a coast or nuke the province center,the only option would be to confront it straight on with a "same thing" stack?

Would it be possible to also have a RRG stack with counter units for the meat shields, move the whole stack within range of the enemy RRG stack,once it starts bombarding you,you break up your stack,the enemy RRG can only bomb one thing at a time, either your RRG or your counter units (which if you have enough can also maybe split up)while your RRG is bombarding the whole enemy stack?

I haven't experienced something like this scenario so I won't really know however I did watch a YouTube short where bm-fox was in a similar situation with multiple stacks of RRG's and his solution was nukes (not that bm-fox is the alpha and omega of strategy and tactics).

Hope I haven't offended or challenged anyone's professional capacity, I enjoy your input,it carries weight and I acknowledge it.

Vanrendo wrote:

jubjub bird wrote:

To the original point of the thread, if your RRG solution is "build nukes" you've either already lost or you're playing against an idiot and don't need nukes to beat them. Either way, nukes aren't the answer

Ok I'm not a highly competitive player yet and neither can I hold the candle with you guys, you have way more experience in the game than I have but I would like to participate in this thread so I can learn how to counter a similar situation should it occur.

To the original point of this thread, I highly doubt that an idiot would have a RRG stack with meat shields and AA and no one here can have a solid solution to counter it.

If nukes and mass stacks are a waste of resources what would be the solution then?If it's a defensive stack you won't be able to lure it out to a coast or nuke the province center,the only option would be to confront it straight on with a "same thing" stack?

Would it be possible to also have a RRG stack with counter units for the meat shields, move the whole stack within range of the enemy RRG stack,once it starts bombarding you,you break up your stack,the enemy RRG can only bomb one thing at a time, either your RRG or your counter units (which if you have enough can also maybe split up)while your RRG is bombarding the whole enemy stack?

I haven't experienced something like this scenario so I won't really know however I did watch a YouTube short where bm-fox was in a similar situation with multiple stacks of RRG's and his solution was nukes (not that bm-fox is the alpha and omega of strategy and tactics).

Hope I haven't offended or challenged anyone's professional capacity, I enjoy your input,it carries weight and I acknowledge it.

Vanrendo wrote:

jubjub bird wrote:

To the original point of the thread, if your RRG solution is "build nukes" you've either already lost or you're playing against an idiot and don't need nukes to beat them. Either way, nukes aren't the answer

Ok I'm not a highly competitive player yet and neither can I hold the candle with you guys, you have way more experience in the game than I have but I would like to participate in this thread so I can learn how to counter a similar situation should it occur.

To the original point of this thread, I highly doubt that an idiot would have a RRG stack with meat shields and AA and no one here can have a solid solution to counter it.

If nukes and mass stacks are a waste of resources what would be the solution then?If it's a defensive stack you won't be able to lure it out to a coast or nuke the province center,the only option would be to confront it straight on with a "same thing" stack?

Would it be possible to also have a RRG stack with counter units for the meat shields, move the whole stack within range of the enemy RRG stack,once it starts bombarding you,you break up your stack,the enemy RRG can only bomb one thing at a time, either your RRG or your counter units (which if you have enough can also maybe split up)while your RRG is bombarding the whole enemy stack?

I haven't experienced something like this scenario so I won't really know however I did watch a YouTube short where bm-fox was in a similar situation with multiple stacks of RRG's and his solution was nukes (not that bm-fox is the alpha and omega of strategy and tactics).

Hope I haven't offended or challenged anyone's professional capacity, I enjoy your input,it carries weight and I acknowledge it.

I guess you can lure them out if needed and nuke them. If they don’t move, rush their cores as said by Python. The cost of a nuke will almost always be less than an actually dangerous RRG stack. Nuke spam for the win!

Carking the 6th wrote:

I guess you can lure them out if needed and nuke them. If they don’t move, rush their cores as said by Python. The cost of a nuke will almost always be less than an actually dangerous RRG stack. Nuke spam for the win!

I mean by bombarding the province centers after they move from them. They can’t stick to one forever or they get invaded by fast units, and if they move they get nuked. Catch-22.

Carking the 6th wrote:

I mean by bombarding the province centers after they move from them. They can’t stick to one forever or they get invaded by fast units, and if they move they get nuked. Catch-22.

My point is that RRG stacks aren't unbeatable if they're played by a bad player, which most are. The particular flavor of their idiocy will determine how to attack them. Insufficient support units? Attack their weakness, whether with tanks or with air. Too many meat shields? You can have more RRG than they do, because they've wasted manpower elsewhere, and will win the fight from range. Put all their units into a single doom stack? Run around it with fast units like AC/LT/MI.

In the hands of a good, active player it's a different situation.

So… during that situation…?

Be better than them or die

Guess that sums it up…

jubjub bird wrote:

My point is that RRG stacks aren't unbeatable if they're played by a bad player, which most are. The particular flavor of their idiocy will determine how to attack them. Insufficient support units? Attack their weakness, whether with tanks or with air. Too many meat shields? You can have more RRG than they do, because they've wasted manpower elsewhere, and will win the fight from range. Put all their units into a single doom stack? Run around it with fast units like AC/LT/MI.

In the hands of a good, active player it's a different situation.

Vanrendo wrote:

jubjub bird wrote:

My point is that RRG stacks aren't unbeatable if they're played by a bad player, which most are. The particular flavor of their idiocy will determine how to attack them. Insufficient support units? Attack their weakness, whether with tanks or with air. Too many meat shields? You can have more RRG than they do, because they've wasted manpower elsewhere, and will win the fight from range. Put all their units into a single doom stack? Run around it with fast units like AC/LT/MI.

In the hands of a good, active player it's a different situation.

I understand what you mean RRG aren't unbeatable in the hands of a bad player but I think the discussion is about RRG stacks in the hands of a good player.You pointed out the flaws of a bad player and how to counter it but what if the player have thought about those flaws and know how to cover it.What if the player has a flavor of intelligence?Not every player will be a noob with a RRG stack, should there be flaws in their strategy it would be a bonus to determine that and exploit it.