Flame Tank Issue (Players can stock up, deploy 10 at once, and gain a big advantage)
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According to the stats released today, the new flame tanks will be able to kill a single level 1 infantry with just one iteration. This reveals a major balancing problem. Someone could save up like 10 of those deployment operation cards, and then deploy them all on day 1 of a new map to gain a big advantage over their enemies. They would be practically unstoppable. The only tank counter available that early in the game is the artillery, and most players do not produce tons of those early on.
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5 Oct 2023, 05:55
It's possible to deploy on day 1? I thought it will be limited to after day 7 or something...
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5 Oct 2023, 05:59
They are?
5 Oct 2023, 05:59
haven’t heard anything about that but I guess that would make sense
5 Oct 2023, 06:00
WednesdayAddams wrote:
haven’t heard anything about that but I guess that would make sense
in the teaser update it implied the deployments for level 1 flame tank is on day 4
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5 Oct 2023, 06:01
and they can't be brought by gold anywho...
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5 Oct 2023, 06:04
Good
5 Oct 2023, 06:05
Karl von Krass wrote:
WednesdayAddams wrote:
haven’t heard anything about that but I guess that would make sense
in the teaser update it implied the deployments for level 1 flame tank is on day 4
so that solves the problem i guess?
5 Oct 2023, 06:12
WednesdayAddams wrote:
Karl von Krass wrote:
WednesdayAddams wrote:
haven’t heard anything about that but I guess that would make sense
in the teaser update it implied the deployments for level 1 flame tank is on day 4
so that solves the problem i guess?
not exactly... normally people wouldn't be able to make stacks of 10 med tanks by day 4... and not enough TD and Attack bombers could be made I guess... but if you use boosters and stuff you could defeat them i suppose
"In my humble opinion, on the subject matter, topic and content discussed beforehand; I would like to humbly propose, convey my idea on the subject and remark; this, with the help of the afforementioned post" - Karl von Krass "The Golden Spire is looking for members, Anyone with good sense of game mechanics and a discord account can apply" Secretary of Nova0213
5 Oct 2023, 07:36
Well you can only deploy one unit per province and there’s a mobilisation time, so max it’ll take day 5 for all the tanks to join together into one killing machine.
Looking for improvement.
5 Oct 2023, 08:31
I think for me, I’ll just not use any unit boosters until someone uses them against me - then I’ll go ham.
Have a blessed day <3
5 Oct 2023, 09:37
SamPGS_17 wrote:
I think for me, I’ll just not use any unit boosters until someone uses them against me - then I’ll go ham.
They ought to be able only to deploy in cities.
Aeroplanes are interesting toys but of no military value. — Marshal Foch A pretty mechanical toy [...] the war will never be won by such machines. — Lord Kitchener, on tanks
5 Oct 2023, 10:00
Lord Crayfish wrote:
SamPGS_17 wrote:
I think for me, I’ll just not use any unit boosters until someone uses them against me - then I’ll go ham.
They ought to be able only to deploy in cities.
I’m slightly inclined to agree with this tbh.
Have a blessed day <3
5 Oct 2023, 14:52
There is nothing I can find about restricting deployment to only one per province.
But there is the specific day of availability.
So far the latest day for deployment of any of the units is day 8...so a mass stack showing up then would be possible as long as the morale requirement of the province is met.
Not likely such a stack would show up on the front line as the morale would be too low.
5 Oct 2023, 15:52
I think that the Flame Tank is a little overpowered if you are pushing into a infantry controlled city or fortification. But most people throw in a anti-tank, arty, or some other troops to reinforce the infantry, in all honest it is really simple to stop the Flame Tank, some attack bombers and heavy tanks easily do the trick for me personally. A 10 stack though does take time to make, mainly cause of how the cards work, I have only been able to lunch one tank and it was able to rid of a defended city with arty and some infantry, thought the arty did do some damage to my tank and it became basically useless when it got to more arty and a armored car.
5 Oct 2023, 16:40
Karl von Krass wrote:
WednesdayAddams wrote:
Karl von Krass wrote:
WednesdayAddams wrote:
haven’t heard anything about that but I guess that would make sense
in the teaser update it implied the deployments for level 1 flame tank is on day 4
so that solves the problem i guess?
not exactly... normally people wouldn't be able to make stacks of 10 med tanks by day 4... and not enough TD and Attack bombers could be made I guess... but if you use boosters and stuff you could defeat them i suppose
Regular artillery would also be helpful
5 Oct 2023, 16:41
The_tank_Man wrote:
I think that the Flame Tank is a little overpowered if you are pushing into a infantry controlled city or fortification. But most people throw in a anti-tank, arty, or some other troops to reinforce the infantry, in all honest it is really simple to stop the Flame Tank, some attack bombers and heavy tanks easily do the trick for me personally. A 10 stack though does take time to make, mainly cause of how the cards work, I have only been able to lunch one tank and it was able to rid of a defended city with arty and some infantry, thought the arty did do some damage to my tank and it became basically useless when it got to more arty and a armored car.
True
this is true
5 Oct 2023, 17:54
Nostroma wrote:
There is nothing I can find about restricting deployment to only one per province.
One per province, and a minimum morale requirement, starting day 8.
5 Oct 2023, 19:53
Ok...show me where that is written...
I just re-read the entire news article on these forums about flame tanks and Opperations with unit cards.
Still don't see the restriction. Only says they can be deployed in your provinces. Makes no mention of only one each.
5 Oct 2023, 21:35
WednesdayAddams wrote:
haven’t heard anything about that but I guess that would make sense
Makes thread about a problem that doesn't exist because of not reading about the new unit.
Almost as bad as the people panicking about this release before we had details, many of whom now seem to love the update
You all are dramatic as hell
5 Oct 2023, 23:15
jubjub bird wrote:
WednesdayAddams wrote:
haven’t heard anything about that but I guess that would make sense
Makes thread about a problem that doesn't exist because of not reading about the new unit.
Almost as bad as the people panicking about this release before we had details, many of whom now seem to love the update
You all are dramatic as hell
You thought this was bad? Should have seen how people where like when they removed the canvas setting…
