How is the "economy" calculated?

OysterT wrote:

I would assume it adds the production of each center to the resources available? This would allow for the use of purchased Gold, of course

What do you mean by economy in this case? Resource gain is actually constant and not by the hour, iirc everything other than spies is even factored into total /hr production calculations there as a constant. If you mean the newspaper, all daily resource income other than manpower is added together. Consumption not counted.

I mean what is repported in the Newspaper.

OysterT wrote:

I mean what is repported in the Newspaper.

Carking the 6th wrote:

What do you mean by economy in this case? Resource gain is actually constant and not by the hour, iirc everything other than spies is even factored into total /hr production calculations there as a constant. If you mean the newspaper, all daily resource income other than manpower is added together. Consumption not counted.

SamPGS_17 wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

What do you mean by economy in this case? Resource gain is actually constant and not by the hour, iirc everything other than spies is even factored into total /hr production calculations there as a constant. If you mean the newspaper, all daily resource income other than manpower is added together. Consumption not counted.

Manpower is included and cash is excluded!

Joe Bartolozzi wrote:

SamPGS_17 wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

What do you mean by economy in this case? Resource gain is actually constant and not by the hour, iirc everything other than spies is even factored into total /hr production calculations there as a constant. If you mean the newspaper, all daily resource income other than manpower is added together. Consumption not counted.

Manpower is included and cash is excluded!

Manpower as well?

Joe Bartolozzi wrote:

SamPGS_17 wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

What do you mean by economy in this case? Resource gain is actually constant and not by the hour, iirc everything other than spies is even factored into total /hr production calculations there as a constant. If you mean the newspaper, all daily resource income other than manpower is added together. Consumption not counted.

Manpower is included and cash is excluded!

Manpower as well?

What a confusing set of answers...includes manpower, excludes manpower, excludes money (what?), rate of production is analog, not digital??? When the number is put in the paper it is done with a formula. What is it?

Example: I'm in a 22 player Eropean conflict game and I have all my home centers at 3 or 4. My ally has no industry at all. My cities are procing at leat 50% more than his are. We both have the same number of VPS. Yet his "economy" in the paper is almost equat to mine. Why? Can I assume it is because he has bought more gold than I?

OysterT wrote:

What a confusing set of answers...includes manpower, excludes manpower, excludes money (what?), rate of production is analog, not digital??? When the number is put in the paper it is done with a formula. What is it?

Example: I'm in a 22 player Eropean conflict game and I have all my home centers at 3 or 4. My ally has no industry at all. My cities are procing at leat 50% more than his are. We both have the same number of VPS. Yet his "economy" in the paper is almost equat to mine. Why? Can I assume it is because he has bought more gold than I?

Economy is the summation of your daily production or resources which includes manpower and excludes Money. Simple addition. It doesn't depend on how much gold one has.

'Rich' is, if the money is there. It is only a feeling, but I am pretty sure about it.

OysterT wrote:

What a confusing set of answers...includes manpower, excludes manpower, excludes money (what?), rate of production is analog, not digital??? When the number is put in the paper it is done with a formula. What is it?

Example: I'm in a 22 player Eropean conflict game and I have all my home centers at 3 or 4. My ally has no industry at all. My cities are procing at leat 50% more than his are. We both have the same number of VPS. Yet his "economy" in the paper is almost equat to mine. Why? Can I assume it is because he has bought more gold than I?

It has nothing to do with gold, or money, or resources in hand. It is simply the sum of daily production of food, goods, metal, oil, rare materials, and manpower.

For example, if I produce (per day) 8k food, 7k goods, 9k steel, 8k oil, and 10k rare materials, the newspaper will reflect that as my economy being worth ‘42,000’.

Hurbala wrote:

'Rich' is, if the money is there. It is only a feeling, but I am pretty sure about it.

I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time with the idea that the "economy" excludes "Money". Can we agree that that is very odd? Why would that be, since money can instantly become any resourcde through the stock exchange?

And, it doesn't begin to explain why my ally, who is producing everything at about 2/3 of what I am producing has a similar "economy".

Here are my ally"s productions in his home cities: Approximately 6,000f each. MIne are all at approximately 10,000 each. My economy was reported as 73,000. His as 70,000. We both have five home centers and we have about the same number of conquered centers.

I get the spearation of "Rich" from "Economy". Thanks for that.

OysterT wrote:

I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time with the idea that the "economy" excludes "Money". Can we agree that that is very odd? Why would that be, since money can instantly become any resourcde through the stock exchange?

And, it doesn't begin to explain why my ally, who is producing everything at about 2/3 of what I am producing has a similar "economy".

As for your ally, if they’re producing 2/3 of what you are, either you’ve increased your production drastically since the last economy report, or you’re missing something.

OysterT wrote:

Here are my ally"s productions in his home cities: Approximately 6,000f each. MIne are all at approximately 10,000 each. My economy was reported as 73,000. His as 70,000. We both have five home centers and we have about the same number of conquered centers.

I get the spearation of "Rich" from "Economy". Thanks for that.

Thanks for sticking with me on this. I could get a screen shot of the newspaper, but to get his production level at the time... it was two days ago. Even today there is a drastic difference, but I have to go to each of his cities individually to get it as a series of screen shots. And, not sure how to do a screen shot on here. Let me try.

For example, here I have the screenshots of my current game. I am Germany. As you can see, all my daily production of resources added up is about 151,000, which is about 7k above the economy reports I got at day change. This is a reasonable change as it’s been about 6 hours since the economy was reported, and the province morale has updated, plus I’ve conquered some provinces which will increase my production by a bit.

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OysterT wrote:

Thanks for sticking with me on this. I could get a screen shot of the newspaper, but to get his production level at the time... it was two days ago. Even today there is a drastic difference, but I have to go to each of his cities individually to get it as a series of screen shots. And, not sure how to do a screen shot on here. Let me try.

I’m sure it’ll just be the case that you will have ramped up your factory making over the last couple of days and that’ll be reflected in the next economy report!