Is he cheating?

I'm not sure if it's allowed, but in my opinion a player is cheating and abusing a game mechanic. What he's doing is sending 6 offers to every player in the game. 6 Right of way offers and is asking for all 5 types of resources and cash. In his own words, 90% of players fall for this thinking he's GIVING resources away. But actually, he is ASKING for resources in exchange for the right of way. Now imagine the amount of resources this guy "steals" per game and the advantage he gets? Also, he's abusing the mechanic, where you can accept "right of way" 6 times in a row. You shouldn't be able to accept the same deal 6 times over.

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z00mz00m wrote:

The rest of us can agree all day long, it's not going to change this guy.

Some people just go through life like that. Taking advantage of every loophole. Trying every possible trick and scam to get ahead. Making people miserable and not giving the tiniest of craplets. Until Bytro puts a stop to this, he will keep taking advantage of this "game mechanic".

The only thing we can do is make a point of destroying him on every map we find him on. Eventually, he will get tired of losing. But he'll never understand why we're giving him a hard time. Such is the life of a sociopath.

I heard recently that you used awefull lot of gold to destroy some dudes from kellys - I guess thats the way you usally do it when you cant handle some resistance.

Erecon wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

We got 5 people total who disagree with you. Youโ€™re wrong. Accept it.
So how many % of the community do you represent? is it like 0.0000005% ?
You are messing with the wrong group of people, bud, we, i should say, ALL Generals, and a lot of lower ranks too, are the backbone of the Forum, you are essentially messing with the Secret Service and you are but a homeless man.

It's a forum and we're the nerds that post here, I don't think it's quite that serious. He's just an asshole, not much more to it than that. Shrug and move on.

6thDragon wrote:

Brando Dilla wrote:

These walls of text are so annoying!
You can edit the quote so you aren't quoting "walls of text". Makes for easier reading.
How do you do that?
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Brando Dilla wrote:

6thDragon wrote:

Brando Dilla wrote:

These walls of text are so annoying!
You can edit the quote so you aren't quoting "walls of text". Makes for easier reading.
How do you do that?
Click/tap on the bold name, you can then edit or delete a quote by tapping it.

TheZhukov wrote:

If you are willing to spend half an hour on a WaW map sending everyone trades, you shouldn't play
Unrelated to the discussion, but in and of itself there's no problem with doing this, any more than, say, spending half an hour producing units and upgrading industry in all your provinces. The problem is when you're doing it to trick people into giving you stuff, which has nothing to do with how much effort you put into doing that (although those who are willing to spend that much time aren't helping their case).
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Lady Aragosta wrote:

TheZhukov wrote:

If you are willing to spend half an hour on a WaW map sending everyone trades, you shouldn't play
Unrelated to the discussion, but in and of itself there's no problem with doing this, any more than, say, spending half an hour producing units and upgrading industry in all your provinces. The problem is when you're doing it to trick people into giving you stuff, which has nothing to do with how much effort you put into doing that (although those who are willing to spend that much time aren't helping their case).
Well good its not a case then

Carking the 6th wrote:

Click/tap on the bold name, you can then edit or delete a quote by tapping it.

Like this?

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Brando Dilla wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Click/tap on the bold name, you can then edit or delete a quote by tapping it.

Like this?

Yup, exactly!

Carking the 6th wrote:

Brando Dilla wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Click/tap on the bold name, you can then edit or delete a quote by tapping it.

Like this?

Yup, exactly!
Thanks for helping me out mate
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jubjub bird wrote:

It's a forum and we're the nerds that post here, I don't think it's quite that serious. He's just an asshole, not much more to it than that. Shrug and move on.

The best part of this post:

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Finally something we can all agree on!

Fox-Company wrote:

Erecon wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

We got 5 people total who disagree with you. Youโ€™re wrong. Accept it.
So how many % of the community do you represent? is it like 0.0000005% ?
You are messing with the wrong group of people, bud, we, i should say, ALL Generals, and a lot of lower ranks too, are the backbone of the Forum, you are essentially messing with the Secret Service and you are but a homeless man.
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z00mz00m wrote:

jubjub bird wrote:

It's a forum and we're the nerds that post here, I don't think it's quite that serious. He's just an asshole, not much more to it than that. Shrug and move on.
The best part of this post:

Spoilerz00mz00m, Fox-Company and Erecon like this.

Finally something we can all agree on!

I love when people come together to collectively hate something!

He is just abusing the inexperienced players.

Seems to be an interesting but dirty way of playing.

Probably only works against new players.

You'll probably need some luck tho if you want to gain a major resource advantage in a game with that strategy.

Have never done it myself, maybe I should try it in at least one game.

Chris Mapper wrote:

He is just abusing the inexperienced players.

Seems to be an interesting but dirty way of playing.

Probably only works against new players.

You'll probably need some luck tho if you want to gain a major resource advantage in a game with that strategy.

Have never done it myself, maybe I should try it in at least one game.

Before trying it, you have to consider the cons.

As you can see, the majority of players consider this an underhanded and borderline illegal tactic. Using tactics like that, it will be easy for players who don't fall for it to unite against you because they feel insulted. In the early game, do you really want to find yourself in a situation where the world is uniting against you? Diplomacy is an important aspect of the game and you may find it hard to get allies.

With the number of threads on this forum on this subject I'm starting to see a lot more of these offers being made at the start of the game. Looks like people lurking the forums are chancing their luck trying to get free resources.

Definitely poor sportmanship and an overall crappy thing to do. Long term this only hurts the community by driving away potential new players if they fall for it. The games got a steep learning curve already without losing your resources to a scam.

It's been talked about (and encouraged, by some) in the discord for a while, so I think you've got causality reversed--I think the increase in people using this tactic has led to an increase in forum threads.

It probably is one of the most dirty strategies I've heard for not only CoW, but probably for other similar games by Bytro as well.

The disturbing thing on this is, that there's technically no rule saying something against it, at least not right now.

the real world is full of people trying to scam you. the best course of action is to learn from the event and not get scammed again. Realize that there are people out there trying to take advantage of you both in the game and in the real world. Scam me once shame on them scam me twice shame on you.

1101Pathfinder wrote:

the real world is full of people trying to scam you. the best course of action is to learn from the event and not get scammed again. Realize that there are people out there trying to take advantage of you both in the game and in the real world. Scam me once shame on them scam me twice shame on you.
Shame on me? I didnโ€™t scam you! So meanโ€ฆ

(yes I know what you actually meant lol)

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