Non War Land Grab

How is it when your conquering another country, another country is allowed to grab an area without it declaring war. I was taking over Italy and France grabbed Genoa, and then Poland took Zilna while I was taking the Czech. When I try to take the area back, less than 5 min after them, it tells me I have to declare war. Wasn't their grabbing of the land that i now owned considered them declaring war?

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Ungarrisoned border or coastal provinces that have been seized recently and are in revolt (black smoke coming from pop center) can rebel against the current owner and join another nation. You can mitigate this by posting garrisons on recently conquered provinces.

gumbi17 wrote:

How is it when your conquering another country, another country is allowed to grab an area without it declaring war. I was taking over Italy and France grabbed Genoa, and then Poland took Zilna while I was taking the Czech. When I try to take the area back, less than 5 min after them, it tells me I have to declare war. Wasn't their grabbing of the land that i now owned considered them declaring war?
They haven't 'grabbed' it. If you don't leave a unit or two in each of the provinces you take, they will rebel, and join the closest country.
The past is a foreign country.

There is a small chance of province rebelling at the start of each day, and a garrison can suppress rebellions.

Pablo22510 wrote:

gumbi17 wrote:

How is it when your conquering another country, another country is allowed to grab an area without it declaring war. I was taking over Italy and France grabbed Genoa, and then Poland took Zilna while I was taking the Czech. When I try to take the area back, less than 5 min after them, it tells me I have to declare war. Wasn't their grabbing of the land that i now owned considered them declaring war?
They haven't 'grabbed' it. If you don't leave a unit or two in each of the provinces you take, they will rebel, and join the closest country.
keep in mind that even a single unit or two can be overpowered and killed, so the province could still end up rebelling. and in worst case the unit you have put on will join the other nation as well or atleast it seems that way
gunsofwar
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gunsofwar wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

gumbi17 wrote:

How is it when your conquering another country, another country is allowed to grab an area without it declaring war. I was taking over Italy and France grabbed Genoa, and then Poland took Zilna while I was taking the Czech. When I try to take the area back, less than 5 min after them, it tells me I have to declare war. Wasn't their grabbing of the land that i now owned considered them declaring war?
They haven't 'grabbed' it. If you don't leave a unit or two in each of the provinces you take, they will rebel, and join the closest country.
keep in mind that even a single unit or two can be overpowered and killed, so the province could still end up rebelling. and in worst case the unit you have put on will join the other nation as well or atleast it seems that way
I've been playing more or less since the game was created, and it has never happened to me when a unit and therefore the province rebelled and joined another country.
The past is a foreign country.

Pablo22510 wrote:

gunsofwar wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

gumbi17 wrote:

How is it when your conquering another country, another country is allowed to grab an area without it declaring war. I was taking over Italy and France grabbed Genoa, and then Poland took Zilna while I was taking the Czech. When I try to take the area back, less than 5 min after them, it tells me I have to declare war. Wasn't their grabbing of the land that i now owned considered them declaring war?
They haven't 'grabbed' it. If you don't leave a unit or two in each of the provinces you take, they will rebel, and join the closest country.
keep in mind that even a single unit or two can be overpowered and killed, so the province could still end up rebelling. and in worst case the unit you have put on will join the other nation as well or atleast it seems that way
I've been playing more or less since the game was created, and it has never happened to me when a unit and therefore the province rebelled and joined another country.
can only say that i have tried more than once where i lost a province even though i had a unit there. and newspaper said it had been overpowered and killed
gunsofwar
EN Moderator

gunsofwar wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

gunsofwar wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

gumbi17 wrote:

How is it when your conquering another country, another country is allowed to grab an area without it declaring war. I was taking over Italy and France grabbed Genoa, and then Poland took Zilna while I was taking the Czech. When I try to take the area back, less than 5 min after them, it tells me I have to declare war. Wasn't their grabbing of the land that i now owned considered them declaring war?
They haven't 'grabbed' it. If you don't leave a unit or two in each of the provinces you take, they will rebel, and join the closest country.
keep in mind that even a single unit or two can be overpowered and killed, so the province could still end up rebelling. and in worst case the unit you have put on will join the other nation as well or atleast it seems that way
I've been playing more or less since the game was created, and it has never happened to me when a unit and therefore the province rebelled and joined another country.
can only say that i have tried more than once where i lost a province even though i had a unit there. and newspaper said it had been overpowered and killed
Well, never happened to me.
The past is a foreign country.

If there is only one unit in the province, rebellion can still win. It can either destroy the unit or give it to the nation who wins the province. I saw few times that if there are two units there, rebellion can kill one of them, never saw that it manages to win and change ownership of the province in those cases. However, some people have reported that a two unit garrison loses the rebellion, it could be true, but it could be an oversight. In general case, its best to leave two units there if there is a chance for revolt and it is more important to use units for that instead for something else.

Paramunac wrote:

However, some people have reported that a two unit garrison loses the rebellion, it could be true, but it could be an oversight.
That happened to me two days ago. Two guys in Ar-Raqqah, rebelled to Iraq. Lost them both.

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