Is it a good idea to just stack several Destroyers and Cruisers to send troops to other land? Would that speed up the time (cruisers go at 51km, but transport ships go at 45 at max) it takes to arrive to a certain point (say from south africa to north africa)? Should I use something else to escort, or is it not worth my time?
Theoretically, units can embark in transport ships and travel around unescorted. But that's a bad idea, because in practice enemies will try to sink your convoys. So you'll probably want to escort them. What kind of escort you need depends on what kind of units you think you need to defend against.
Generally, DD (destroyer) are best against subs, while cruiser are best against naval bomber, subs are good to sink enemy battleships/cruisers, and battleships are good to hit any non-sub naval unit. The right mix is situation dependent, but at minimum you'll usually want destroyers to escort your convoy, and perhaps subs to scout ahead for enemy ships.
(Note that only naval bombers reveal other nations' subs, unless those subs are engaged in combat.)
21 Dec 2017, 13:01
Unescorted convoys are a nice snack for submarines lurking in the deep water.
I always assume there are subs where I want to go, so stacking a convoy with several destroyers at a minimum, and leading with some other ships to observe and clear the way
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21 Dec 2017, 17:15
Thanks!
BrittleDeadHidingDud wrote:
(Note that only naval bombers reveal other nations' subs, unless those subs are engaged in combat.)
So the reveal armies feature does not reveal ALL armies?
So the reveal armies feature does not reveal ALL armies?
Spies can reveal subs also, but that is a "shadow" or "ghost" image of the sub at the moment the reveal was done. Units can change direction any moment after the reveal and not be in the place you expect.
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I should also add that reveals are not always 100 percent accurate. It depends greatly on your spies. Spies are well paid of course, but it seems many of them take their pay straight to the bar and sit there for days. So if they cannot see the enemy units from their barstool they claim there is nothing to report.
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22 Dec 2017, 00:32
VorlonFCW wrote:
I should also add that reveals are not always 100 percent accurate.
I haven't seen that. Would it be hard to prove that?
22 Dec 2017, 01:02
DxC wrote:
I haven't seen that. Would it be hard to prove that?
That was my short answer while on the road today. I was thinking of the thread earlier in the week on this topic.
But couldn't do the link on my phone, and didn't feel like making a long post with my thumbs.
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22 Dec 2017, 02:14
So you were referring to units that were already visible going out of range and leaving no ghost? I think the initial reveal should give 100%. Once units move out of pre-visible range they can disappear from reveal, but the initial reveal is 100%. Do you agree with that?
22 Dec 2017, 02:31
DxC wrote:
So you were referring to units that were already visible going out of range and leaving no ghost? I think the initial reveal should give 100%. Once units move out of pre-visible range they can disappear from reveal, but the initial reveal is 100%. Do you agree with that?
I agree 99% of the time.
I can count one time that an ally used a gold reveal and it disclosed zero submarines, but the player had a submarine at every landing zone on the continent. Perhaps a glitch/bug I don't know, this was several months ago.
I have no other instances that I am sure of. Likely explained by them being visible then leaving no ghost as you say.
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22 Dec 2017, 02:34
DxC wrote:
So you were referring to units that were already visible going out of range and leaving no ghost? I think the initial reveal should give 100%. Once units move out of pre-visible range they can disappear from reveal, but the initial reveal is 100%. Do you agree with that?
No. As I stated in the thread linked by Vorlon above, I have seen where (a) aircraft stacks that were known to exist before the "reveal all armies" function was used do not appear when it is (and are later confirmed to still exist), and (b) aircraft stacks that were revealed when using the function, and their intelligence "ghosts" later disappear from the intelligence completely. I have used RAA well over two dozen times (maybe more), and I have noted this problem with aircraft multiple times. I do not know if it may extend to naval units too, as suggested by Vorlon, because I have not personally observed it. One other aspect of this, as I have observed it, is that RAA will show aircraft stacks at their air base, when, in fact, they may be patrolling at some distance far from it.
I have not observed similar problems with ground units when using RAA, but I have noticed that their intelligence ghosts will sometimes disappear when they have moved during the day. That may, however, be related to having later spotted them using live intelligence of aircraft or other units, as suggested by WiseOdin.
22 Dec 2017, 03:12
Thanks for the info. Regarding
MontanaBB wrote:
RAA will show aircraft stacks at their air base, when, in fact, they may be patrolling at some distance far from it.
That is normal. plane ghosts always show up at AB.
22 Dec 2017, 03:23
Interesting thread. Does RAA mean Reveal All Armies?
