Tank destroyer or medium tank?

Hi guys,im asking if tank destroyer thanks to their bonus in Allies doctrine ,are Better of medium tank in a stack, maybe they are both good?

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I typically prefer Med tank. Tank destroyers are too slow and very susceptible to infantry

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Tank destroyers 100%. Td have soo many bonuses, allies medium tanks even have penalties. Go for tank destroyers

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Danieliyoverde123 wrote:

Tank destroyers 100%. Td have soo many bonuses, allies medium tanks even have penalties. Go for tank destroyers
and only applicable if playing Allied Doctrine.

Pan-Asian example of stats:

Speeds:

In most scenarios, you'll want Medium tank. Tank destroyers are really only useful in defense and against medium or heavy tanks. They are terrible against infantry units, while the medium tank can hold its own against them.

Speeds are actually the same, so I apologize.

Strength bonus for urban and forest for tank destroyer, and stealthed in forest.

Anti-tank gun have same boosts and stealthed in forest AND urban.

Pax Romana Communications Officer

The only doctrine wich i use medium tanks is with the axis, the other ones i do prefer tanks destroyers, a mix of infantry or armored cars with tank destroyers its better than medium tanks i think. Specially for defend the railroad guns wich are the best unit since day 15 but need some protection.

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Danieliyoverde123 wrote:

The only doctrine wich i use medium tanks is with the axis, the other ones i do prefer tanks destroyers, a mix of infantry or armored cars with tank destroyers its better than medium tanks i think. Specially for defend the railroad guns wich are the best unit since day 15 but need some protection.
Railroad guns are not even the best artillery in day 15 lmao. level 4 Sp artillery is it's faster and cost less. even does better damage
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Chris kamara

Yeah but railroad have double range, you can decimate the enemy before they can shoot you back

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With the new update of immediate return fire, railroad guns do have a reborn purpose.

However, SP Artillery are still more efficient in most cases

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SaskeOtaku wrote:

Hi guys,im asking if tank destroyer thanks to their bonus in Allies doctrine ,are Better of medium tank in a stack, maybe they are both good?
1.Defensive units are pointless because they can always just bait you into attack them/fallback and arty them instead go with the med tanks

Danieliyoverde123 wrote:

Yeah but railroad have double range, you can decimate the enemy before they can shoot you back
yeah but the speed jesus the speed. speed matters a lot atleast to me. I am pretty sure it would take railroad guns 3 weeks or more to fully take a decently expanded country
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Chris kamara

By day 15 in my expirience only the best and most active left on the game, and they do not leave any obvious weakness, speed its great early on but later on the game firepower takes the place.

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I don't mean speed like using fast units. no I mean movement if you make to day 15 you should have an absolutely massive empire. and using slow and laborious railroad gun stacks it just way too slow. of course you can build infrastructure but then another problem rises, in enemy territory there is no infrastructure and you get debuff in speed. it's literally going to take ages to take even 13 provinces which in day 15 are nothing.

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Chris kamara

But against good players any bad movement its losing entire army, once the armies got massive you cant enter into enemy territory without meticulous precautions if you are trying to win(against good players anyway) soo speed its not a factor anymore.

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Fair enough

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Chris kamara

Well if all of you agreed we can test our theories on a game

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I’d say the question depends on your stack

but med tanks are the better rounded unit whereas Td can pack a punch well above their weight in the right circumstances

Aliies can use TD with AC for defense against all types... then stack with or screening for SPART. No need for MT per usual.

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