Didn't the CIA try to kill Castro like 600 times?
What does "Reclaim the Mainland" mean?
In a World at War game, there are like 4 people in the newspaper that keep saying "Reclaim the Mainland". I don't know what that means - perhaps it's some fascist/communist chant? Is it reportable?
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Failed 600 times as well.
Like if the US is secretly running in the world, I’d be happy. I WISH a government could be that competent.
"I dont Inhale that mush propaganda"Renarsm wrote:
Claudio NVKP wrote:
Watch neutral blogs in Xinjiang from other countries, you will truly understand the perspective instead of propaganda. Also it's CCP.Firstly, I don't inhale that much propaganda. I do understand the perspective, which is that there is no solid proof. (other than "witness" testimonials, which can be easily faked by bribing a few people) I have searched up "uyghur genocide proof"on google and the only sort of photographical evidence I have found would be just one picture of chinese police beating on a uyghur, with no background information given (i.e the uyghur was lashing out at people and had to be restrained) What does this mean? Surely, if there was better proof such as photographical evidence of piles of bodies, of fields of blood, but there is none, because the west cannot find any sort of proof. The same would apply for the accusations of horrid treatment, where the only sort of proof is testimonials, and the only sort of photographical evidence I have seen is that one picture of a uyghur being beaten.Carking the 6th wrote:
As an Arab, I condemn China. Our greedy governments that care more about trade money than our fellow humans be damned.Renarsm wrote:
Given that the Arab league didn't condemn China on anything done there, I find no reason to believe western sources that have witness testimonials as their best evidence.I’m voting for you on these elections.Claudio NVKP wrote:
No, I am agreeing with you.... *facepalm*Carking the 6th wrote:
What do you think I do? Anything you disagree with is propaganda and completely untrue? Funny. There is 100% percent some truth to it. CPC and CCP both work. CPC means Communist Party of China.Claudio NVKP wrote:
Watch neutral blogs in Xinjiang from other countries, you will truly understand the perspective instead of propaganda. Also it's CCP.
-Is a literal Tankie in all its aspects
-Literally has a 'Hail the PRC' as as signature
-Denies genocide, blindly believing the communists
-Thinks Fascism is worse and killed more people than communism
Why dont we deport you to North Korea or China to work in a sweatshop to make you experience REAL Communism
Hermann Goering (TNO) -c. 1960
You having literal Cecil Rhodes
Yes?Claudio NVKP wrote:
You having literal Cecil Rhodes
Greatest man to have lived in Africa
Brought civilization to the Dark Continent, taught the blacks civilization, modern technology, and helped establish a sucsessful and most importantly profitable colony to the British, and later a very successful and Great nation who almost singlehandedly fended off communist swine (who were recieving aid from both Soviet and China) from all directions while on an embargo from most of the world, with their only allies being SA and Portugal, who eventually left them.
Rhodes is still known and applauded to this day by millions of people for his efforts and achievements, while all Communists, socialists, and the like rot in hell.
Hermann Goering (TNO) -c. 1960
This has to be the worst joke I’ve ever seen. Anyone who thinks anything Europe did in Africa was positive in any manner is frankly a maniac.Cecil Rhodes. wrote:
Yes?Greatest man to have lived in AfricaClaudio NVKP wrote:
You having literal Cecil RhodesBrought civilization to the Dark Continent, taught the blacks civilization, modern technology, and helped establish a sucsessful and most importantly profitable colony to the British,
This was not a joke.Carking the 6th wrote:
This has to be the worst joke I’ve ever seen. Anyone who thinks anything Europe did in Africa was positive in any manner is frankly a maniac.Cecil Rhodes. wrote:
Yes?Greatest man to have lived in AfricaBrought civilization to the Dark Continent, taught the blacks civilization, modern technology, and helped establish a sucsessful and most importantly profitable colony to the British,Claudio NVKP wrote:
You having literal Cecil Rhodes
So you'd prefer that the blacks were running around with spears, living in mud shacks, and beating each other to death with clubs?
I'm not saying all colonization was good. Look at the Belgian Congo, The Aztecs and Incas, and Aboriginals.
I condemn those actions.
But Rhodes, he has no down-side to him.
He improved the lands of Rhodesia and North Rhodesia in every way possible, and he did not commit any atrocities at all.
Cecil Rhodes is perfect in every way.
Hermann Goering (TNO) -c. 1960
Ah yes, running blood mines and not allowing black people to vote, totally.
Your view of African civilization is a joke. Some of the most important civilizations in history came from Africa. Even before the Europeans there were multiple very powerful kingdoms based in the region. They were were more advanced than medieval Europe, and had the Europeans chosen to say trade more rather than colonize, and given some time, would have likely seen an Industrial Revolution. Only the most isolated parts of Africa still worked like the ways you described.
Bro is on lethal doses of CopiumCarking the 6th wrote:
Ah yes, running blood mines and not allowing black people to vote, totally.Your view of African civilization is a joke. Some of the most important civilizations in history came from Africa. Even before the Europeans there were multiple very powerful kingdoms based in the region. They were were more advanced than medieval Europe, and had the Europeans chosen to say trade more rather than colonize, and given some time, would have likely seen an Industrial Revolution. Only the most isolated parts of Africa still worked like the ways you described.
None of the Africans were more advanced than medieval Europeans.
I'm talking about Black africa here, as Muslim Africa was, in fact, more advanced at points than Europe.
Black africa has not produced a singular noteworthy civilization, and all of the so called
'Great African Nations' were overrun by some Europeans with muskets and Horses.
Africa had not the potential to achieve an industrial revolution within the next 5000 years on their own.
Africans had literal stone-age tools at the Time Europe has Guns, Artillery, Waships, poision gas, and the likes.
It would have taken Africa a long time to develop coal and Iron mining operations of large enough quantity to sustain and industrial evolution.
Keep on coping, mate.
Hermann Goering (TNO) -c. 1960
Bro really said copium and pretended to be right…
Time for an internet argument.
You are completely wrong right off the bat.
Black Africa is just a stupid statement. Many North Africans are black for one thing, many Sub Saharans are not. Black is also usually used for African Americans, but whatever.
The Kingdom of the Kongo, Oyo Empire, Ethiopia annd Nubia are all examples. Ethiopia defeated Italy in a direct war and Italy had to rely on chemical weapons to win a second one.
The Nubians also defeated the same Rashidun Caliphate that conquered most of Rome and all of Persia.
These civilizations later on, along with many West African ones (including many that were not Muslim, and many that were) had larger populations, were wealthier, used far more Sophisticated agricultural techniques than Europe. They were burdened with less disease at the time due to lack of animals which was a double edged sword for obvious reasons. Madagascar was extremely wealthy at a point, thanks to it producing practically all of the world vanilla, and still making 90% of natural vanilla to this day.
African metallurgy was actually quite a bit better than its European counterpart for quite the while, part of the reason those metal masks you may see were made. Their pottery also was very impressive.
Europe certainly held an advantage by the 19th century, but European economies were reliant on African and Asian resources for their growth, and did not allow the making of factories or modern cities and such. Their division of ethnic groups and creation of unnatural colonial borders further hampered progress for African civilization.
Africa has plenty of resources, fertile land and did make the technological advancement that would have made industrialization take place eventually. I don’t like ad-hominems, but you’re frankly ignorant for assuming all that you just said. Cecil Rhodes was simply a greedy businessman who exploited people and acted as a warlord, nothing to be idolized.
That where I am going to leave this glorious internet argument, anyway.
Bro wrote all of that and is pretending to be correct lmao.Carking the 6th wrote:
Bro really said copium and pretended to be right…Time for an internet argument.
You are completely wrong right off the bat.
Black Africa is just a stupid statement. Many North Africans are black for one thing, many Sub Saharans are not. Black is also usually used for African Americans, but whatever.
The Kingdom of the Kongo, Oyo Empire, Ethiopia annd Nubia are all examples. Ethiopia defeated Italy in a direct war and Italy had to rely on chemical weapons to win a second won.
The Nubians also defeated the same Rashidun Caliphate that conquered most of Rome and all of Persia.
These civilizations later on, along with many West African ones (including many that were not Muslim, and many that were) had larger populations, were wealthier, used far more Sophisticated agricultural techniques than Europe. They were burdened with less disease at the time due to lack of animals which was a double edged sword for obvious reasons. Madagascar was extremely wealthy at a point, thanks to it producing practically all of the world vanilla, and still making 90% of natural vanilla to this day.
African metallurgy was actually quite a bit better than its European counterpart for quite the while, part of the reason those metal masks you may see were made. Their pottery also was very impressive.
Europe certainly held an advantage by the 19th century, but European economies were reliant on African and Asian resources for their growth, and did not allow the making of factories or modern cities and such. Their division of ethnic groups and creation of unnatural colonial borders further hampered and progress for African civilization.
Africa has plenty of resources, fertile land and had the technological advancement that would have made industrialization take place eventually. I don’t like ad-hominems, but you’re frankly ignorant for assuming all that you just said. Cecil Rhodes was simply a greedy businessman who exploited people and acted as a warlord, nothing to be idolized.
That where I am going to leave this glorious internet argument, anyway.
Plus, what did I even expect from a discussion with a communist.
Hermann Goering (TNO) -c. 1960
I’m a communist?! I am the damn Saviour you fool!!! I carried YOU! Unnoble.
Classic imperialist apologist. Shut up and go learn some history before you open your mouth and start to yapCecil Rhodes. wrote:
Bro wrote all of that and is pretending to be correct lmao.Plus, what did I even expect from a discussion with a communist.Carking the 6th wrote:
Bro really said copium and pretended to be right…Time for an internet argument.
You are completely wrong right off the bat.
Black Africa is just a stupid statement. Many North Africans are black for one thing, many Sub Saharans are not. Black is also usually used for African Americans, but whatever.
The Kingdom of the Kongo, Oyo Empire, Ethiopia annd Nubia are all examples. Ethiopia defeated Italy in a direct war and Italy had to rely on chemical weapons to win a second won.
The Nubians also defeated the same Rashidun Caliphate that conquered most of Rome and all of Persia.
These civilizations later on, along with many West African ones (including many that were not Muslim, and many that were) had larger populations, were wealthier, used far more Sophisticated agricultural techniques than Europe. They were burdened with less disease at the time due to lack of animals which was a double edged sword for obvious reasons. Madagascar was extremely wealthy at a point, thanks to it producing practically all of the world vanilla, and still making 90% of natural vanilla to this day.
African metallurgy was actually quite a bit better than its European counterpart for quite the while, part of the reason those metal masks you may see were made. Their pottery also was very impressive.
Europe certainly held an advantage by the 19th century, but European economies were reliant on African and Asian resources for their growth, and did not allow the making of factories or modern cities and such. Their division of ethnic groups and creation of unnatural colonial borders further hampered and progress for African civilization.
Africa has plenty of resources, fertile land and had the technological advancement that would have made industrialization take place eventually. I don’t like ad-hominems, but you’re frankly ignorant for assuming all that you just said. Cecil Rhodes was simply a greedy businessman who exploited people and acted as a warlord, nothing to be idolized.
That where I am going to leave this glorious internet argument, anyway.
I second this.
"The Golden Spire is looking for members, Anyone with good sense of game mechanics and a discord account can apply"
Secretary of Nova0213
It's also not up to others to carry people forward. It has to be done by themselves.
"The Golden Spire is looking for members, Anyone with good sense of game mechanics and a discord account can apply"
Secretary of Nova0213
Why is there a new thread every week about this stuff-
Guys before any of you lot break ToS please calm tf down and bring the thread back to its original topic. A conversation like this at the bare minimum belongs in off-topic, if not at all.
Okay you facist, please explain to me how capitalism is sooooo good if it caused the death of ~200 million people while communism only caused 1/4 of thatCecil Rhodes. wrote:
bro is straight up denying the Holodomor, Maos Famine, Cuban, Venezuelan, and German communiat caused crisises/embargoes, ect. Plus, if Communism is so good, tell me:Why did over 15 K chineese POWs in Korea defect to the Americans and fought for them, while only 153 allied personell did the reverse? Why did people flee from Cuba, not into it? And, when the Berlin wall fell, to which side did people go?Renarsm wrote:
Reclaim the mainland is chanted by some mf sobs from Taiwan who can't accept the fact that their grandpas lost the civil war. Also how is communism equivalent to facism. Last time I checked communism didn't violate 80000 people in one city alone or try to commit systematic extermination to an entire ethnicity of people.Croa Del Mar wrote:
In a World at War game, there are like 4 people in the newspaper that keep saying "Reclaim the Mainland". I don't know what that means - perhaps it's some fascist/communist chant? Is it reportable?
WTF? Bitch I live in China. Also how tf is facism better. Are you some sort of neo nazi?Cecil Rhodes. wrote:
"I dont Inhale that mush propaganda"-Is a literal Tankie in all its aspectsRenarsm wrote:
Claudio NVKP wrote:
Watch neutral blogs in Xinjiang from other countries, you will truly understand the perspective instead of propaganda. Also it's CCP.Firstly, I don't inhale that much propaganda. I do understand the perspective, which is that there is no solid proof. (other than "witness" testimonials, which can be easily faked by bribing a few people) I have searched up "uyghur genocide proof"on google and the only sort of photographical evidence I have found would be just one picture of chinese police beating on a uyghur, with no background information given (i.e the uyghur was lashing out at people and had to be restrained) What does this mean? Surely, if there was better proof such as photographical evidence of piles of bodies, of fields of blood, but there is none, because the west cannot find any sort of proof. The same would apply for the accusations of horrid treatment, where the only sort of proof is testimonials, and the only sort of photographical evidence I have seen is that one picture of a uyghur being beaten.Carking the 6th wrote:
As an Arab, I condemn China. Our greedy governments that care more about trade money than our fellow humans be damned.Renarsm wrote:
Given that the Arab league didn't condemn China on anything done there, I find no reason to believe western sources that have witness testimonials as their best evidence.I’m voting for you on these elections.Claudio NVKP wrote:
No, I am agreeing with you.... *facepalm*Carking the 6th wrote:
What do you think I do? Anything you disagree with is propaganda and completely untrue? Funny. There is 100% percent some truth to it. CPC and CCP both work. CPC means Communist Party of China.Claudio NVKP wrote:
Watch neutral blogs in Xinjiang from other countries, you will truly understand the perspective instead of propaganda. Also it's CCP.-Literally has a 'Hail the PRC' as as signature
-Denies genocide, blindly believing the communists
-Thinks Fascism is worse and killed more people than communism
Why dont we deport you to North Korea or China to work in a sweatshop to make you experience REAL Communism
What? You're sad that another person disagreed with you and have to resort to name calling? Do I have to tell your mommy and inform your preschool that you're "prewcious wittle fweelings" have been hurt?Cecil Rhodes. wrote:
Bro wrote all of that and is pretending to be correct lmao.Plus, what did I even expect from a discussion with a communist.Carking the 6th wrote:
Bro really said copium and pretended to be right…Time for an internet argument.
You are completely wrong right off the bat.
Black Africa is just a stupid statement. Many North Africans are black for one thing, many Sub Saharans are not. Black is also usually used for African Americans, but whatever.
The Kingdom of the Kongo, Oyo Empire, Ethiopia annd Nubia are all examples. Ethiopia defeated Italy in a direct war and Italy had to rely on chemical weapons to win a second won.
The Nubians also defeated the same Rashidun Caliphate that conquered most of Rome and all of Persia.
These civilizations later on, along with many West African ones (including many that were not Muslim, and many that were) had larger populations, were wealthier, used far more Sophisticated agricultural techniques than Europe. They were burdened with less disease at the time due to lack of animals which was a double edged sword for obvious reasons. Madagascar was extremely wealthy at a point, thanks to it producing practically all of the world vanilla, and still making 90% of natural vanilla to this day.
African metallurgy was actually quite a bit better than its European counterpart for quite the while, part of the reason those metal masks you may see were made. Their pottery also was very impressive.
Europe certainly held an advantage by the 19th century, but European economies were reliant on African and Asian resources for their growth, and did not allow the making of factories or modern cities and such. Their division of ethnic groups and creation of unnatural colonial borders further hampered and progress for African civilization.
Africa has plenty of resources, fertile land and had the technological advancement that would have made industrialization take place eventually. I don’t like ad-hominems, but you’re frankly ignorant for assuming all that you just said. Cecil Rhodes was simply a greedy businessman who exploited people and acted as a warlord, nothing to be idolized.
That where I am going to leave this glorious internet argument, anyway.
Too late, RIP. I say we all bail from this thread before the fire burns us all…_Pyth0n_ wrote:
Why is there a new thread every week about this stuff-Guys before any of you lot break ToS please calm tf down and bring the thread back to its original topic. A conversation like this at the bare minimum belongs in off-topic, if not at all.
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