Why is USA so weak in HWW?

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The US is stronger than Finland

It had a good navy, weak army and weak airborne in 1939

Usa had 100K men in 1939,so it's converted into 69 units.its navy is actually good and it's air force

The reason I said this about air is because you can quickly make a good air force

that is partly true

You have to upgrade your factory

and why say usa is weaker than Finland

Finland has lots of weird ordnance stuff

easy 2 destroy

It starts with few units, but a lot of potential. At the time USA had a weak military because nobody wanted war.

stardragon225 wrote:

It starts with few units, but a lot of potential. At the time USA had a weak military because nobody wanted war.

Rachellreist wrote:

Finland has lots of weird ordnance stuff

easy 2 destroy

HWW does a good job representing the USA as an isolationist country, both unready and unwilling to enter another world war.

z00mz00m wrote:

HWW does a good job representing the USA as an isolationist country, both unready and unwilling to enter another world war.

z00mz00m wrote:

HWW does a good job representing the USA as an isolationist country, both unready and unwilling to enter another world war.

Baracuda12 wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

HWW does a good job representing the USA as an isolationist country, both unready and unwilling to enter another world war.

But it has the potential to build up fast if they do

stardragon225 wrote:

Baracuda12 wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

HWW does a good job representing the USA as an isolationist country, both unready and unwilling to enter another world war.

But it has the potential to build up fast if they do

True.

Imperialist San arta wrote:

stardragon225 wrote:

Baracuda12 wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

HWW does a good job representing the USA as an isolationist country, both unready and unwilling to enter another world war.

But it has the potential to build up fast if they do

True.

I have played usa many times.and it is true

The United States was not a major military power at this time. Due to isolationism and the Great Depression, the department of war (before it was changed to defense because countries like to pretend that all their wars are defensive!) was underfunded, with the only branch of actual strength being the navy, which received most of the limited funding, in order to combat Japan and protect US overseas interests. At this point the US was actually re-arming, and would reach about 1 million men in 1941, before Japan decided to kill itself, in an act of aggression that would obviously give the US the jump it needed to become a world power, permanently ending isolationism. With an economy literally ten times stronger and unreachable to Japan, the way the war would end was even more decisive and decided at the start than the Soviet victory over the Germans. Shitler was ecstatic, since he wanted the Japanese to use their large fleet to hold off the Americans (who he always planned to go to war with) and ordered his country to declare war on America in unison, with Italy following suit.

By now the Axis’ fate was sealed. The US lend lease to the Soviets, although only contributing around 7% of their war economy and only arriving in mass after 1942, when the eastern front had already turned and the Soviets were practically destined to crush the Nazis, still made things worse. Now with US support the Soviet Union was guaranteed to stave off whatever Germany could throw at them. As for the UK, this effectively turned the tide in the west. The US fleet relieved the Royal Navy of significant pressure, and helped the UK take out North Africa and Italy in 1942-3. Once operations Bagration and Overlord were launched in (coordinated) unison, not even some godlike AI with the best strategy imaginable could really save the axis. And on Japan, things went even worse for the Axis. Every Japanese ship sunk could not be rebuilt, while every US ship sunk was literally replaced with multiple more. China too managed to hold out, the stalemate turning into a slow Chinese advance thanks to allied support coming from the US and USSR. Indonesia and the Philippines were retaken, and the Soviet offensive in Japan took an underdeveloped land larger than Germany in just 2 weeks.This showed how weak American pressure had made Japan, and was a good show of force by the red army. And then came the launching of an invasion that would have been deadlier than all American wars in history up to that point combined and left Japan crippled. Though there was a chance they would have surrendered even without the bombs being dropped, then combined with the Soviet invasion led to their surrender. By now after remembering the prompt for this answer, the once untested and somewhat weak US military, with only a potent navy as its strength had used the GARGANTUAN US industry to become untouchable in the sea and air, and with only the red army as a match on land. America was done.

Now ‘Murica was born

TLDR: Great Depression and isolationism meant that the military was ignored, though fear of Japan and Germany led to a build up. After the war started all hell broke loose and the US became extremely powerful.

Random sources for further reading:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_United_States_during_World_War_II

https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/united-states-history-primary-source-timeline/great-depression-and-world-war-ii-1929-1945/world-war-ii/

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/america-goes-war-take-closer-look

https://study.com/learn/lesson/us-in-world-war-2.html

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/lend-lease

(Just search up US in WW2 on google or YouTube and you’ll find plenty of good sources)

Carking the 6th wrote:

The United States was not a major military power at this time. Due to isolationism and the Great Depression, the department of war (before it was changed to defense because countries like to pretend that all their wars are defensive!) was underfunded, with the only branch of actual strength being the navy, which received most of the limited funding, in order to combat Japan and protect US overseas interests. At this point the US was actually re-arming, and would reach about 1 million men in 1941, before Japan decided to kill itself, in an act of aggression that would obviously give the US the jump it needed to become a world power, permanently ending isolationism. With an economy literally ten times stronger and unreachable to Japan, the way the war would end was even more decisive and decided at the start than the Soviet victory over the Germans. Shitler was ecstatic, since he wanted the Japanese to use their large fleet to hold off the Americans (who he always planned to go to war with) and ordered his country to declare war on America in unison, with Italy following suit.

By now the Axis’ fate was sealed. The US lend lease to the Soviets, although only contributing around 7% of their war economy and only arriving in mass after 1942, when the eastern front had already turned and the Soviets were practically destined to crush the Nazis, still made things worse. Now with US support the Soviet Union was guaranteed to stave off whatever Germany could throw at them. As for the UK, this effectively turned the tide in the west. The US fleet relieved the Royal Navy of significant pressure, and helped the UK take out North Africa and Italy in 1942-3. Once operations Bagration and Overlord were launched in (coordinated) unison, not even some godlike AI with the best strategy imaginable could really save the axis. And on Japan, things went even worse for the Axis. Every Japanese ship sunk could not be rebuilt, while every US ship sunk was literally replaced with multiple more. China too managed to hold out, the stalemate turning into a slow Chinese advance thanks to allied support coming from the US and USSR. Indonesia and the Philippines were retaken, and the Soviet offensive in Japan took an underdeveloped land larger than Germany in just 2 weeks.This showed how weak American pressure had made Japan, and was a good show of force by the red army. And then came the launching of an invasion that would have been deadlier than all American wars in history up to that point combined and left Japan crippled. Though there was a chance they would have surrendered even without the bombs being dropped, then combined with the Soviet invasion led to their surrender. By now after remembering the prompt for this answer, the once untested and somewhat weak US military, with only a potent navy as its strength had used the GARGANTUAN US industry to become untouchable in the sea and air, and with only the red army as a match on land. America was done.

Now ‘Murica was born

TLDR: Great Depression and isolationism meant that the military was ignored, though fear of Japan and Germany led to a build up. After the war started all hell broke loose and the US became extremely powerful.

Random sources for further reading:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_United_States_during_World_War_II

https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/united-states-history-primary-source-timeline/great-depression-and-world-war-ii-1929-1945/world-war-ii/

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/america-goes-war-take-closer-look

https://study.com/learn/lesson/us-in-world-war-2.html

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/lend-lease

(Just search up US in WW2 on google or YouTube and you’ll find plenty of good sources)

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

The United States was not a major military power at this time. Due to isolationism and the Great Depression, the department of war (before it was changed to defense because countries like to pretend that all their wars are defensive!) was underfunded, with the only branch of actual strength being the navy, which received most of the limited funding, in order to combat Japan and protect US overseas interests. At this point the US was actually re-arming, and would reach about 1 million men in 1941, before Japan decided to kill itself, in an act of aggression that would obviously give the US the jump it needed to become a world power, permanently ending isolationism. With an economy literally ten times stronger and unreachable to Japan, the way the war would end was even more decisive and decided at the start than the Soviet victory over the Germans. Shitler was ecstatic, since he wanted the Japanese to use their large fleet to hold off the Americans (who he always planned to go to war with) and ordered his country to declare war on America in unison, with Italy following suit.

By now the Axis’ fate was sealed. The US lend lease to the Soviets, although only contributing around 7% of their war economy and only arriving in mass after 1942, when the eastern front had already turned and the Soviets were practically destined to crush the Nazis, still made things worse. Now with US support the Soviet Union was guaranteed to stave off whatever Germany could throw at them. As for the UK, this effectively turned the tide in the west. The US fleet relieved the Royal Navy of significant pressure, and helped the UK take out North Africa and Italy in 1942-3. Once operations Bagration and Overlord were launched in (coordinated) unison, not even some godlike AI with the best strategy imaginable could really save the axis. And on Japan, things went even worse for the Axis. Every Japanese ship sunk could not be rebuilt, while every US ship sunk was literally replaced with multiple more. China too managed to hold out, the stalemate turning into a slow Chinese advance thanks to allied support coming from the US and USSR. Indonesia and the Philippines were retaken, and the Soviet offensive in Japan took an underdeveloped land larger than Germany in just 2 weeks.This showed how weak American pressure had made Japan, and was a good show of force by the red army. And then came the launching of an invasion that would have been deadlier than all American wars in history up to that point combined and left Japan crippled. Though there was a chance they would have surrendered even without the bombs being dropped, then combined with the Soviet invasion led to their surrender. By now after remembering the prompt for this answer, the once untested and somewhat weak US military, with only a potent navy as its strength had used the GARGANTUAN US industry to become untouchable in the sea and air, and with only the red army as a match on land. America was done.

Now ‘Murica was born

TLDR: Great Depression and isolationism meant that the military was ignored, though fear of Japan and Germany led to a build up. After the war started all hell broke loose and the US became extremely powerful.

Random sources for further reading:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_the_United_States_during_World_War_II

https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/united-states-history-primary-source-timeline/great-depression-and-world-war-ii-1929-1945/world-war-ii/

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/america-goes-war-take-closer-look

https://study.com/learn/lesson/us-in-world-war-2.html

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/lend-lease

(Just search up US in WW2 on google or YouTube and you’ll find plenty of good sources)

Thank you for the history lesson that my ADHD could not handle

Actually now that I think about it I might do that…

Interwar period War Plans, The Great Depression's raging, why dont you get a job in the army.

War Plan Blue:- Defense During Peace Period.

War Plan White:- Crushing Rebellions (Especially Communists)

War Plan Green:- Invasion of Mexico

War Plan Tan:- American Intervention in Cuba

War Plan Grey:- Carrebian and Central America

War Plan Grey 2 (WW2- Invasion of The Portuguese Azores if potentially conquered by The Axis

War Plan Purple:- Invasion of South American countries, particularly for regims changes

War Plan Violent:- War plan green, grey and purpls together. Focusing on all of Latin America

War Plan Indigo:- Occupation of Iceland

War Plan Red:- Invading Canada (UK invasion)

War Plan Gold:- Potenial War with France, and its colonies in The Carrebian, Guadeloupe and Martinique

War Plan Black (WW1- Invasion of Guadeloupe and Martinique, but only to stop Germany from getting a stronghold in The Carrebian incase France fell

War Plan Yellow:- Invasion of China incase of a 2nd Boxer Rebellion

War Plan Brown:- Incase of an uprising in the Philippines

War Plan Orange:- Invasion of Japan

War Plan Red-Orange:- Created after The Anglo-Japanese alliance, to invade Canada, and defend against Japan in the pacific.