1890s Civil Wars Roleplay

26 Jan 2016, 22:42

So, instead of me posting this on s1914 which I was going to, I changed my mind and posted it on the S1942 since there hasn’t been a major RP, so I have made one.

The rules are just something you’ll have to live with since spamming is easier to do here than in s1914.

Starting date - 1888, January 1st

1 Day - 6 months

Game - 1379202

Game Rules

No GM
No trolling
Be nice to other players
Make somewhat realistic choices, not like the CSA and USA becoming allies
Leave OOC problems out of the game
(unless you asked) You need to sign up for the game
Keep the game number and password to yourself.
No heavy Tanks
*If* there is a Skype, at the 1st call of trouble on it tell me and i will fix it before it hurts the RP

History

In 1861, April 13. The CSA had came to the Union's capital of Washington D.C and had open fire. This was the start of the American Civil war. 3 weeks after the opening bell of the American Civil war, became under siege by the Confederate armies, its leader was general Robert E. Lee. Unknow by the Confederate army. USA president, Abraham Lincoln was still in D.C along with over 40,000 Union soldier, as the Confederate army had over 100,000 men and around 300 guns aimed to level the city. The battle had last one month, wave after wave of Confederate troops attacked and fell back. Until the last wave of Confederate army came. An overwhelming mass of 30,000 troops supported by 70 guns. The Union had no chance to hold them off for another 1 day for the army from New York to arrive. The Union only had around 3,200 men left to hold the city and within 2 hours in battle, the army was down to under 600 battle ready men. Once the battle was lost, the whole of the Union army that was in D.C was called to garrison the White House to hold off as many men as they could. They didn’t last long and by 9:24 pm that same day The whole of D.C was under control by the CSA. In the White house, laid 295 Union men and the US president, Abraham Lincoln. The Union navy had been trying to help, but due to the Confederate subs along with the whole Confederate navy, no Union ship was able to help the fight in D.C, all that they could do is watch as their capital fell. Abraham Lincoln had asked his vice president, Hannibal Hamlin to leave D.C, but when he tried; he was shot and killed when the Confederate ambushed the small force that was set to keep him safe. That would leave US general Grant to lead the US. The first move that he had made, make peace with the CSA.

1 months after the end of the battle for D.C, the CSA had won the civil war. Months after that the Union had started to fall apart as their army was shaken and its navy with no meaning to help. The Union was seen by the world as a failure to even keep its own people under their watch, but it was later found out that a mass of European countries like the United Kingdom, French, German and even some Spanish help, was the main reason to victory for the Confederates so fast. It was told that over 1,000 heavy guns and $135.1 million dollars was sent. The US was furious with Europe, thus it would lead to the US having to build up its broken army to plan again how to retake the south and possibly even Canada from the British

Later on around 1870, a massive Ukrainian, Polish and Lithuanian revolt for its freedom from the Russian government which up until then, has been replacing the people that had lived there; with Russian supporters and Russian nationalist. The fighting had came out of nowhere with most of the Russian army still around the Japanese border after Japan’s huge military build up.

The Ukrainian, Polish and Lithuanian rebels setted up their own governments, Lithuania and Poland had formed together to make the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, and with Ukraine staying as it would, but those two countries would be the best of friends seeing that they have still needed to fight to become free as Russia has been moving over their lands without asking time after time.

Seeing that if massive revolts can even take down the biggest of powers, countries like the UK, Swedish Empire and the Ottoman Empire start to make social freedoms for people that are not British, Swedish Turkish etc, sometimes if they would speak out against the state, they would be put in jail for “Seeing the devastation of the Great State”. The suppression of the of the people mostly had started in 1879

As for the Americas. Slavery was never put out in the south and life went on like normal. June 26th 1880 Until Irish nations took the streets of Dublin and demanded freedom from the British government. When the british government put what the Irish said to the side. The Irish nationals had started a island wide revolution which took the British government by shocked hearing it but the revolution was easy to put down but the Irish people still wanted freedom. And once more, everything was fine until October 31, 1882. Much like in Ireland, the Norwegian government which more or less was annexed again by their overrules, the Swedish Empire. 2 weeks, much like in Ireland, the people of Norway had made a revolt wishing to become its own country. But it faced the something that the Irish had gotten, their revolt had failed as well. As what had happened after the Irish revolt, all went back to normal life but, the Swedish military had now started to crack down on any pro-nationalist movements.

And without much surprise, a similar revolt happen in the Ottoman empire, Canada and Algeria. These revolts had started to make countries around the world start to think that that if they had a vassal, their vassal would want freedom. Some countries like the Netherland made countries like Indonesia a free nation; as did the Danish which made Iceland and Greenland free nations.

In 1890 all in the month of October, a multi national revolution had came out.

Irish, Iraqi, Norwegian, Algerian, Canadian and Syrian plus, even some Armenian.

With this shock of multiple revolution attacks, The United Kingdom, Ottoman Empire, Swedish Empire, and the French Empire; must now fight back the waves of nationalist looking for the freedom of their beloved nation.

Timeline-

Now lots of this that I put is not in the history for one reason, most of it is not on the map, and/or not really that important.

1861

April 13 - Outbreak of the American Civil war.

May 4 - Washington D.C is attacked.

June 4th - Washington falls, Vice President and President of the US is killed.

July 21st - The American Civil War ends with a southern victory.

September 2nd - The US finds out a number of European governments helped the south

1877

October 17th - Ukraine, Poland, and Lithuania make a huge revolt to fight off the Russian masters

1879

All year - Countries start to suppress the non ethnic people of the state.

December 25th - Ukraine Poland and Lithuania become free nations.

December 30th - Poland and Lithuania make a commonwealth

December 31st - Ukraine makes plans to join it in in the future after their country rebuilds.

1880

June 26th - Irish the first battle of the Irish liberation movement takes place, the moment is put down in one battle.

July 2nd - A full end to the Irish Civil War.

December 25th - CSA asks for all former slaves to be returned to their slave masters from whatever country, no country listens.

1881

March 10th - California leaves the US and making the ‘Western coast Union’.

April 26th - The California Union makes plans to go into southern Mexico.

June 10th - the Native people in Canada are kicked out and moved to the northern lands.

1882

December 26th - Norwegian people make a raid on a Swedish dock and military base in the far north of Sweden, Sweden does not find out until 30 days after the attack.

1883

March 21st - The Western coast Union attacks Mexico

December 1st - The Western coast Union peaces out getting Baja California

1887

July 6th - Hawaii is annexed by the Western coast Union

1890

October - Algerian, Arabic, Canadian and Norwegian nationalist make a revolt to fight their leaders to make their own state.

How many regert electing the current US president, and if not, please, tell me why you havent yet, id love to here you, hopefully smart answer.

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26 Jan 2016, 22:43 (edited)

Landswap Map

Taken - Red

Open - Green

May not join due to in-activeness - Orange

Dead - Black

CSA - Shadow__Hawk

level 3 infantry, level 5 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 3 Artillery, everything in navy level 2 other than subs, they are level 1.

USA - Cruisechef

level 4 infantry, level 3 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 2 Artillery, everything in navy level 3 other than subs, they are level 2.

United Kingdom - Jhon Pete1

level 4 infantry, level 5 militia, level 2 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 2 AT, level 4 Artillery, everything in navy level 4 other than subs, they are level 1.

Russian Empire - Squeecky

level 2 infantry, level 3 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 2 Artillery, everything in navy level 2 other than subs, they are level 1.

France - Joie

level 3 infantry, level 2 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 2 AT, level 2 Artillery, everything in navy level 3 other than subs, they are level 1.

Germany -

level 5 infantry, level 5 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 4 Artillery, everything in navy level 3 other than subs, they are level 2.

Canadian Rebels (Canada)- Tilen

level1 infantry, level 5 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 1 Artillery, everything in navy level 1

Italy - ithappens

level 3 infantry, level 3 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 2 Artillery, everything in navy level 2 other than subs, they are level 1.

Spain -

level 2 infantry, level 1 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 1 Artillery, everything in navy level 2 other than subs, they are level 1.

Random City state (Turkey)- And his name is...

level 1 infantry, level 2 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 2 Artillery, everything in navy level 1

Austrian Empire (Yugoslavia)- Patton1

level 3 infantry, level 4 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 2 Artillery, everything in navy level 3 other than subs, they are level 2.

Swedish Empire -

level 3 infantry, level 5 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 3 Artillery, everything in navy level 2 other than subs, they are level 1.

Eastern Commonwealth (Poland) - aDudeWhoDoesThings

level 4 infantry, level 5 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 1 Artillery, everything in navy level 1.

Ukraine - RogodeterSnowl

level 4 infantry, level 5 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 1 Artillery, everything in navy level 2 other than subs, which is level 1.

Turkey (Libya) -Royal

level 2 infantry, level 5 militia, level 2 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 2 Artillery, everything in navy level 2. Can build Commandos

Norwegian Rebels (Communist Russia) - A Person

level 2 infantry, level 5 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 1 Artillery, everything in navy level 2 other than subs, which is level 1. Can build Commandos

Denmark (Egypt) - Nooo1

level 2 infantry, level 3 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 1 Artillery, everything in navy level 3 other than subs, which is level 1. Battleships are level 1

Finland - Guy from skype

level 1 infantry, level 2 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 3 Artillery, everything in navy level 2 other than subs, which is level 0. Can’t build battleships till 1915

Romania -

level 1 infantry, level 3 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 2 Artillery, everything in navy level 2 other than subs, which is level 1. Can’t build Battleships

Morocco -

level 1 infantry, level 1 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 1 AT, level 0 Artillery, everything in navy level 0

Republic of Ireland (Caucasus)- Darren I

level 2 infantry, level 3 militia, level 1 cavalry (Armored Cars), level 0 AT, level 0 artillery, all ships level one, subs level 0

How many regert electing the current US president, and if not, please, tell me why you havent yet, id love to here you, hopefully smart answer.

26 Jan 2016, 22:44 (edited)

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Rebel nations

As you can bet, most of the rebel nation or at least some will die off since the numbers and how outmatched they are. Plus since we don’t to kill off players (cough cough) I will allow nations without lands to live in other nations.

Possible Questions

If I am a rebel nation but no one lets me in their country, what do I do ? - Simply this, you join as another country like Bulgaria via landswap. You are not allowed to live in the sea with 1 person.

If my nation is destroyed and someone is willing to let me in their nation, what do I do ? - You move whatever is left in your army and move it to that country. Note that once your nation is no longer on the map, you can ask from nations to help give men to your cause which would be given back later on in the game. They can give mech troops but nothing more than arty.

Rebel nations can get nations to support them.

Example - Syria loses. Syria runs away to Russia and Syria Russia make a plan to come back to Turkey forcing Syria to become a free nation if they win. Syria asks other countries to help them become a nation.

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Wars

Without question, war is apart of every Roleplay no matter what you do, and countries sometimes take more than it should have, so there will be a limit on how much land will be able to be taken in a war; it will also be broken into differ amount you can take from continent to continent.

Africa - 4 cities/provinces

Europe - 2 cities/provinces

America - 3 cities/provinces

Middle East - 3 cities/provinces

*These Rules do NOT apply for rebellion nations until they are a free nation.*

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Vassalions

When your nation is vassalized after a war, there will be a time limit before you can become a free nation again. The time limit before you can rebellion to be a free nation is 2 years (aka 8 months). You can not leave your “master” until that time is over, but if your master makes you do something against your will (ex - Tells you to take the blame for a war he started, wants lands that you need, treats you like a doll etc etc) then you only need to be his vassal for 1 year before you can rebellion and become free.

If your “master” will not accept that you have won the war and became a free nation, then you have the right to take his lands as long as at least 1 nation supports you. Once it comes down to that then you can make him your vassal or take cities from him.

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Units

Units Allowed at the start of the game

Militia

Regular Infantry

Armored Cars

Anti-Tank

Artillery

Destroyers

Submarines

Curiers

Battleships

Commands *ONLY FOR REBEL NATIONS*

Units *NOT* allowed

Planes -

Fighters in 1910

tactical bombers in 1920

strategic bombers in 1915

Naval in 1921

Motorized infantry (not until 1920)

Mechanized Infantry (Not until 1939)

Light Tanks (Not Until 1915)

Medium Tanks (Not Until 1930)

Heavy Tanks (not Until 1935)

Tank Destroyers (Not until 1935)

SP artillery (Not Until 1940)

SP Anti Air (Not until 1940)

Railguns (Until 1915)

Rockets (Until 1943)

Nukes (If we get this far, 1946)

Rocket fighters (1950, good luck with that)

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Spamming

We all know tanks and armoured cars are god OP, so to stop that, each country *CAN NOT SPAM THEM* clear ?

All tanks and Armoured must have have an escort by infantry, since the cavalry would always have support in infantry. Also, for artillery, since I guess people still spam that *cough cough* artillery must be escorted by 2 infantry units, no army commander would ever leave their most valuable open to attack, that would just never happen.

As for the oh so great tactical spam which we all do, *don’t even try and do that* simply put, this is a RP, play realistic. If this was a regular game, I would be fine but it's not, so do not spam. Fighters, keep it to air attack since fighters only really ground attacked in ww2.

Until around 1917, strategic bombers are ballons. Tactical bombers are heavy bombers and fighters are biplanes. After that time, call them what they are.

Subs, we all spam them, here, no no, no spamming subs, since A. no one really used them till ww2 to be real. and B, name me a country with over 200 subs in this time, take your time you won’t find one.

Battleships can only be built when they have 10 destroyers and 7 cruisers escorting them, since battleships were the pride of everything back then. UK has a cut with this, they need 7 destroyers and 5 cruisers, since they had like… 50 battleships give or take.

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Breaking Rules

If you are found breaking the Rules, you will get 3 warnings, then I will build a nuke and threaten you to stop or I will simply nuke you till you stop. Deal ? good.

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Admin rules

Since a bunch of people do not know this rule, I will say it again.

Any troops which you cannot have, due to the time of the game, you MUST give the troops which you cannot have to the game admin so they can be destroyed.

You also can NOT tech ahead of the time

and finally, you can NOT gain better tech from anyone else but the admin

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APPLICATION:

Player Name:

Nation you wish to play as:

Name of your leader (for rebel countries, Finland Morocco Ukraine Poland and CSA No personal name) :

Previous Roleplays (If you have not been in one, an article) :

I agree to follow the rules of all new features

Agree/Disagree

I promise I will be able to play this role-play for the duration of the game

Yes/No

I Agree that if I break any rules I will be kicked from the game.

I Agree/Disagree

I agree to Role-play daily in the DE and to keep my posts professional.

I Agree/Disagree

I read all the information in the rules and signup thread

Yes/No

Please note I have the ability and the right to deny any application

How many regert electing the current US president, and if not, please, tell me why you havent yet, id love to here you, hopefully smart answer.

27 Jan 2016, 04:54

Where do I submit the application I am interested in playing as the CSA

27 Jan 2016, 05:47

just answer here or answer via PM using this

APPLICATION:

Player Name:

Nation you wish to play as:

Name of your leader (for rebel countries, Finland Morocco Ukraine Poland and CSA No personal name) :

Previous Roleplays (If you have not been in one, an article) :

I agree to follow the rules of all new features

Agree/Disagree

I promise I will be able to play this role-play for the duration of the game

Yes/No

I Agree that if I break any rules I will be kicked from the game.

I Agree/Disagree

I agree to Role-play daily in the DE and to keep my posts professional.

I Agree/Disagree

I read all the information in the rules and signup thread

Yes/No

How many regert electing the current US president, and if not, please, tell me why you havent yet, id love to here you, hopefully smart answer.

27 Jan 2016, 07:18

No.

27 Jan 2016, 11:55

This is an interesting concept for this game; limiting the extent of what each nation can research. I like that.

Does the game do it or is it an honor system?

By the way the history reads, The USA could be a rebel country (because they lost the war and is trying to regain what was lost) or not.

I'm new to the game. What is trolling? Am I correct in saying it is harder to 'spam' if you are not a member of the High Command?

It says we can't use personal names but can we use historical names?

I agree to all the terms and won't willingly or knowingly break the rules.

I would like to play as USA with President Grant as my leader.

27 Jan 2016, 16:45

France

Agree to all rules

27 Jan 2016, 17:26

Canadian Rebels

I agree to follow the rules of all new features
Agree
I promise I will be able to play this role-play for the duration of the game
Yes
I Agree that if I break any rules I will be kicked from the game.
I Agree
I agree to Role-play daily in the DE and to keep my posts professional.
I Agree
I read all the information in the rules and signup thread
Yes

27 Jan 2016, 20:18

APPLICATION:

Player Name: Shadow__Hawk

Nation you wish to play as: CSA

James Steven Bulloch (confederate traveled to France in hopes of purchasing warships for the confederacy. His descendants included Theodore Roosevelts mother(Robert E Lee is still General of the confederacy but it is now a position of honor then an actual job as he is about to die)

I agree to follow the rules of all new features

Agree

I promise I will be able to play this role-play for the duration of the game

Yes

I Agree that if I break any rules I will be kicked from the game.

I Agree

I agree to Role-play daily in the DE and to keep my posts professional.

I Agree

I read all the information in the rules and signup thread

Yes

27 Jan 2016, 21:21

Shouldn't Germany take Strausborg from France?

"A knight cannot save the world. They call certain methods of fighting good and others evil, acting as if there were some nobility to the battlefield."
"Honor? Glory? There's no point in speaking to a killer who indulges in such nonsense."
"It's a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated"

27 Jan 2016, 21:49 (edited)

Franco Prussian war never happened : ), yet

Chef, yes their is an honor system backed up by nukes which i'l make in ireland and never use unless someone breaks the rules.

the USA isn't a rebel country since it has a standing government and isn't fighting to become a free nation, like Canada or the Arabic people.

Trolling is kinda like..... http://prntscr.com/9voskl wot that says

spamming is when you build a lot of one unit and not any other unit

historical figures only which where alive at the time, no obama or putin : L

conau web sign up for france just before you did by about an hour : p

Also !!! forget to say but, the rebel nations have a 4 day build up, that is why we are starting in 1888 and not 1890

How many regert electing the current US president, and if not, please, tell me why you havent yet, id love to here you, hopefully smart answer.

27 Jan 2016, 21:49

APPLICATION:

Player Name:Cruisechef

Nation you wish to play as:USA

As the game begins it is 1-1-1888. The US had just finished elections and current president Grant had lost the election to the socialist Eugene V. Debs. The country is unhappy with any previous military leaders and wants a clean slate.

Previous Roleplays (If you have not been in one, an article) :No previous RP

I agree to follow the rules of all new features

Agree

I promise I will be able to play this role-play for the duration of the game

Yes

I Agree that if I break any rules I will be kicked from the game.

I Agree

I agree to Role-play daily in the DE and to keep my posts professional.

I Agree

I read all the information in the rules and signup thread

Yes

27 Jan 2016, 22:28

One thing about the navy for the CSA and the Union, having a lvl 2 navy to the Unions 3 makes sense, however shouldnt the CSA have a higher sub level then the Union since they were the first to use it in combat? (CSS Hunley)

27 Jan 2016, 22:38

yes, but ! it was an early war, around 1900 i will change around the tech levels to fit that time period

How many regert electing the current US president, and if not, please, tell me why you havent yet, id love to here you, hopefully smart answer.

27 Jan 2016, 23:06

APPLICATION:

Player Name: Darren I

Nation you wish to play as: Republic of Ireland

Mr John you know moi from S1914

I agree to follow the rules of all new features

Agree

I promise I will be able to play this role-play for the duration of the game

Yes

I Agree that if I break any rules I will be kicked from the game.

I Agree

I agree to Role-play daily in the DE and to keep my posts professional.

I Agree

I read all the information in the rules and signup thread

Yes

27 Jan 2016, 23:15

aye : )

How many regert electing the current US president, and if not, please, tell me why you havent yet, id love to here you, hopefully smart answer.

28 Jan 2016, 01:38

Small mistake, Egypt is British, Not Italy

How many regert electing the current US president, and if not, please, tell me why you havent yet, id love to here you, hopefully smart answer.

28 Jan 2016, 06:04

hi JP - I will take Ukraine if possible:

I agree to follow the rules of all new features : Agreed

I promise I will be able to play this role-play for the duration of the game: Yes

I Agree that if I break any rules I will be kicked from the game.: Agree

I agree to Role-play daily in the DE and to keep my posts professional: Agree

I read all the information in the rules and signup thread: Yes

28 Jan 2016, 07:48

this filed up faster than i was thinking

How many regert electing the current US president, and if not, please, tell me why you havent yet, id love to here you, hopefully smart answer.

28 Jan 2016, 11:04

ShadowHawk5 wrote:
One thing about the navy for the CSA and the Union, having a lvl 2 navy to the Unions 3 makes sense, however shouldnt the CSA have a higher sub level then the Union since they were the first to use it in combat? (CSS Hunley)

Agreed the Hunley was first...in 1863. My guess is, with the CSA winning the war they would return to what they knew that worked, I.E. a strong manual labor based economy. twenty five years later, with the USA strong industrial based economy and revenge in their hearts, I would think the north would surpass the CSA in 'technology'.

Just my opinion.

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