AXIS vs ALLIES # 9 Game Invite

Waiting for response.

Can I be the Soviets? I have experience in Roleplay on other games, so I will understand about the rules and what I will need to do.

Just wondering when we are going to start.

Hey there sir Lucky,

Welcome back.

LuckyX1 wrote:

I can build infantry in Istabul and Millita everywhere else... Okay. But how about arty, aa, at-gun or even vehicles (assuming if you 'somehow' got enough resources thanks to factions from both sides) I just wonder if everything else that i have in tech can be build?

LuckyX1 wrote:

Are nations or factions allowed to give you higher tier tech weapons than mines, like destroyers, heavy tanks and bombers?

LuckyX1 wrote:

Am i allowed to attack non-faction nations?

(he died in 1938, at the age of 57) had the sense not to stir up the pot. Kicking any of the hornets nests in the region could embroil the country in another WW1 type of war, and they had zero interest in that. If you're paying $15.oo for a glass of milk and can only make WW1 style infantry, why on earth would you get into WW2? There are TONS of politics in the region to reinforce & restrict these options. Bulgaria join the Tripartite pact in 1941 and Greece's neutrality was guarenteed by Britain. There are just no non-aligned nations nearby.

Players in CoW want to fight. No sane Turkish leader would want his country to. If we allow Turkey to attack out, it is just 99% unrealistic.

So there you are with Turkey. It's a very light commitment and only playable if the AXIS are doing very well. Are you sure you want to play them?

Let me know

Laterzzzzzzzzz

Master of Europe wrote:

Hello. I'm fine with being isolationist. I have red the country rules and am good with everything. Looking forward to it.

Any questions, concerns or thoughts

Btw sorry folks for the long time to respond. I spent a long weekend at the folks & outlaws for Easter weekend. I knew that this weekend would be busy for people.

I might be a little late joining due to work. Also, is 1 turn 1 day?

Hey there sir Lucky,

Welcome back.

LuckyX1 wrote:

I can build infantry in Istabul and Millita everywhere else... Okay. But how about arty, aa, at-gun or even vehicles (assuming if you 'somehow' got enough resources thanks to factions from both sides) I just wonder if everything else that i have in tech can be build?

Well here's the thing. They didn't. It's like the Iraqi's or Afghanistan Army today today building tanks, artillery, planes, etc. They didn't. If they (& the Iraqis & so forth) could, they would (have). Of course these nations produced a paltry amount of very small ships,(bad) rifles & small mortars & such.

LuckyX1 wrote:

Are nations or factions allowed to give you higher tier tech weapons than mines, like destroyers, heavy tanks and bombers?

Yes, Turkey got ALL it's tanks from Russia, France & England. If you could ever sucker these nations into giving you armor for example, gr8.

LuckyX1 wrote:

Am i allowed to attack non-faction nations?

Here's the problem 99% of CoW players will fight other nations. Take them over. Use their resources & manpower, etc. However Turkey did not. Why is this? Their new leader at the time- not Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

(he died in 1938, at the age of 57) had the sense not to stir up the pot. Kicking any of the hornets nests in the region could embroil the country in another WW1 type of war, and they had zero interest in that. If you're paying $15.oo for a glass of milk and can only make WW1 style infantry, why on earth would you get into WW2? There are TONS of politics in the region to reinforce & restrict these options. Bulgaria join the Tripartite pact in 1941 and Greece's neutrality was guarenteed by Britain. There are just no non-aligned nations nearby.

Players in CoW want to fight. No sane Turkish leader would want his country to. If we allow Turkey to attack out, it is just 99% unrealistic.

So there you are with Turkey. It's a very light commitment and only playable if the AXIS are doing very well. Are you sure you want to play them?

Let me know

Laterzzzzzzzzz

AnonymusPerson wrote:

Can I be the Soviets? I have experience in Roleplay on other games, so I will understand about the rules and what I will need to do.

Sorry, players snapped up the spots relatively quickly this time. It's a fun and much more realistic WW2 scenario

James Hartmund wrote:

Hey there sir Lucky,

Welcome back.

LuckyX1 wrote:

I can build infantry in Istabul and Millita everywhere else... Okay. But how about arty, aa, at-gun or even vehicles (assuming if you 'somehow' got enough resources thanks to factions from both sides) I just wonder if everything else that i have in tech can be build?

Well here's the thing. They didn't. It's like the Iraqi's or Afghanistan Army today today building tanks, artillery, planes, etc. They didn't. If they (& the Iraqis & so forth) could, they would (have). Of course these nations produced a paltry amount of very small ships,(bad) rifles & small mortars & such.

LuckyX1 wrote:

Are nations or factions allowed to give you higher tier tech weapons than mines, like destroyers, heavy tanks and bombers?

Yes, Turkey got ALL it's tanks from Russia, France & England. If you could ever sucker these nations into giving you armor for example, gr8.

LuckyX1 wrote:

Am i allowed to attack non-faction nations?

Here's the problem 99% of CoW players will fight other nations. Take them over. Use their resources & manpower, etc. However Turkey did not. Why is this? Their new leader at the time- not Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

(he died in 1938, at the age of 57) had the sense not to stir up the pot. Kicking any of the hornets nests in the region could embroil the country in another WW1 type of war, and they had zero interest in that. If you're paying $15.oo for a glass of milk and can only make WW1 style infantry, why on earth would you get into WW2? There are TONS of politics in the region to reinforce & restrict these options. Bulgaria join the Tripartite pact in 1941 and Greece's neutrality was guarenteed by Britain. There are just no non-aligned nations nearby.

Players in CoW want to fight. No sane Turkish leader would want his country to. If we allow Turkey to attack out, it is just 99% unrealistic.

So there you are with Turkey. It's a very light commitment and only playable if the AXIS are doing very well. Are you sure you want to play them?

Let me know

Laterzzzzzzzzz

Tough i have one last question: Am i allowed to build commandos? (or at least with restriction)

So Mr. AnonymusPerson, the game just started; let's keep track of who shows & who does not, shall we?

In reply- Mr. LuckyX1

LuckyX1 wrote:

Tough i have one last question: Am i allowed to build commandos? (or at least with restriction)

I found it:

3 Brigades of Mountain troops (probably = to 2 commandos)

So yes, Turkey could build 2 commando units (Corps)

@James Hartmund What do you think about having a 22 player ww2 roleplay, where nations that are historically under a nations control, have to listen to that nation?

You know I think that, of course, using the 22 player absolutely the best potential for a 98% historical game. Here's the pros & cons of using that map (feel free to give counter points or just correct my thinking

PROS:

1. Canada

2. Finland

3. ROMANIA!!!

4. Other correct WW2 game countries

5. (Plenty of time to get the) correct starting units

6. Correct starting $ & resources

7. France & it's colonial forces will be correct.

CONS:

1. The starting date 'pain in the butt' factor is high. Starting in 1932, most players will have to wait like 14 turns to start. American will be about 21 turns. Honestly, who want's to wait that long.

2. Most, but not all of the resources are messed up. Just look at 'Morocco' with those silly oil, steel, etc., values. Hey, at least Ploesti is correct if I remember.

3. Getting Russia together will be very difficult to say the least. They'll be about 4 silly wars they have to do. It might be fun though , dunno.

4. There's so much to do to get the game going correctly; It's just a daunting task. Blah...

5. There's more 'rules' to make for the game. How about the lack of convoy attack/ sub warfare that is ABSOLUTELY MISSING in the game.

"The only thing that really frightened me during the war was the U-Boat peril." - Winston Churchill

Convoy attacks/ resources warfare isn't even in the game. This is just totaly unacceptable! Again more 'rules' to implement.

IF we do this game, & we probably should... we'll have to just make several silly 'extra' accounts, go into the game and fix, repair, make, correct, do, fix some more... for many days. This is the 'pain in the butt' factor I'm talking about.

AND...

then there's the research to get all this going. I'm not exactly burnt out, but I'm not sure if I want to do the lotsNlots of research that is necessary to make the game right.

Who else will help to do it right I wonder

You let me know when you're truly ready to tackle this. In my mind it would have to be done correctly brotha'

Hey anonymusperson,

Send me a message using the game's 'Community,' 'Message' system (your game name). I'd like to converse with you there more fully. Thanks

Btw, we've had players that have not reported in yet- it's been 20 hours or so. I (we) need to hear from you my good man.

An option for the 22P game regarding bigger nations like Russia or the UK/Egypt partnership, is having multiple people control a 'country'. What I mean is, that one can think of various army groups with different generals. Still not picture perfect, but it disables the need for that early AI takeover stuff.

And it adds more variety - people can have 1 small country, or a 'team' play as Russia or America.

The biggest disadvantage I see with the 22p map is the starting resources/tech/units - which would greatly disadvantage the Axis team.

Personally, I think the 'absolute' neutrals (Im looking at you Sweden, Spain and Turkey) should be hardlocked out of the match.

miech wrote:

An option for the 22P game regarding bigger nations like Russia or the UK/Egypt partnership, is having multiple people control a 'country'. What I mean is, that one can think of various army groups with different generals. Still not picture perfect, but it disables the need for that early AI takeover stuff.

And it adds more variety - people can have 1 small country, or a 'team' play as Russia or America.

The biggest disadvantage I see with the 22p map is the starting resources/tech/units - which would greatly disadvantage the Axis team.

Personally, I think the 'absolute' neutrals (Im looking at you Sweden, Spain and Turkey) should be hardlocked out of the match.

I have mixed opinions of neutrals in this case. In one side hardlocking neutrals from match is best option since it would mean less players needed to roleplay = less problems. However, neutrals COULD make a impact to a game... And make it more intresting. Spain example tough not with a good millitary, would give Axis or Allies a advantage if he joins one of the factions. (Axis: Invasion of Africa or France would be harder| Allies: Easier to invade France and Africa... If Spain survives) Also its not totally historical, so Spain joining Axis wouldnt be insane. I leave others to decide whats better.

Lack of tech and units would be problem, but lack of resrouces would actually make more impact and would even be somewhat historical. The main problem that Germany had is that they did not have materials to produce high quality ammunitions for tanks on theyr own, so they relied on Spain supplying them materials for ammunation, however as we know, Allies pushed Germans out form France, cutting the valuable resources. So lack of resources would make holding land with valuable resources and factories even more important than ever. After all, why you should worry in Blitzkrieg where is nearly ridiclous amount of resources, making conquered land less useful. Also i wouldbe perfect way to stop that goddamn building/unit spam.

Still waiting...

Interesting.

Erm... Is it still active???

LuckyX1 wrote:

Erm... Is it still active???

Not heard anything from the game creator or in this post since an issue was made in the last game and a new game was supposed to begin to address that.