World War 2 Roleplay Final Post

I’m also gonna add that he followed us into that Antartica game as he really was not invited… weird.

Kadeko wrote:

Why is my level is being reset... it got to lvl 1 again... is this how Bytro hates me

The others are fine...

How unfortunate.

Bytro on drugs.

Saddening.

RookOnzo wrote:

This has been the most dramatic game start ever. I only hope the RP is just as exciting. There have been spies false flags all kinds of stuff. I hope the people doing the work dont get worn out. It will all be worth it. Live and learn. RP takes effort to get going. Its a blast when everything comes together. Looking forward to starting soon.

Has Tibet been taken? I have been very busy in the past week or so.

ChessSamurai1999 wrote:

Has Tibet been taken? I have been very busy in the past week or so.

Neither was taken. Are you ready to join? It might take some time for your tanks to be fixed, though.

Carking the 6th wrote:

Neither was taken. Are you ready to join? It might take some time for your tanks to be fixed, though.

Taffyta Muttonfudge wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Neither was taken. Are you ready to join? It might take some time for your tanks to be fixed, though.

I assume you meant ranks?

Donk2.0 wrote:

Taffyta Muttonfudge wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Neither was taken. Are you ready to join? It might take some time for your tanks to be fixed, though.

I assume you meant ranks?

No, he just called the mechanic. The T-34 should be up and running soon.

Glory to the Union! We will have so many tanks that we could make them line up to Berlin anyway!

Carking the 6th wrote:

Glory to the Union! We will have so many tanks that we could make them line up to Berlin anyway!

Well they are actually very easy to repair so while the Germans have to ship it all back to the factory we only need to take 5 mins and then we are good.

Carking the 6th wrote:

Well they are actually very easy to repair so while the Germans have to ship it all back to the factory we only need to take 5 mins and then we are good.

Sounds like you are talking about earlier Soviet tanks like the A-20 or something. Whole point of T-34 was that it was easy to maintain and repair for the time they would last. They did usually take a few minutes to repair after breaking down, mind you they broke down at a rate far, far less than German tanks. They functioned well enough either way, and Germans are much more likely to freeze to death than you or your tank.

Carking the 6th wrote:

Sounds like you are talking about earlier Soviet tanks like the A-20 or something. Whole point of T-34 was that it was easy to maintain and repair for the time they would last. They did usually take a few minutes to repair after breaking down, mind you they broke down at a rate far, far less than German tanks. They functioned well enough either way, and Germans are much more likely to freeze to death than you or your tank.

Donk2.0 wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Sounds like you are talking about earlier Soviet tanks like the A-20 or something. Whole point of T-34 was that it was easy to maintain and repair for the time they would last. They did usually take a few minutes to repair after breaking down, mind you they broke down at a rate far, far less than German tanks. They functioned well enough either way, and Germans are much more likely to freeze to death than you or your tank.

No. Lack of standards across different factories resulted in a wide range of production quality. Some could run incredibly well for years with almost no issues, and some were pretty much broken as soon as they came off the production line. There was no standard design. Each factory made it themselves.

Carking the 6th wrote:

Donk2.0 wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Sounds like you are talking about earlier Soviet tanks like the A-20 or something. Whole point of T-34 was that it was easy to maintain and repair for the time they would last. They did usually take a few minutes to repair after breaking down, mind you they broke down at a rate far, far less than German tanks. They functioned well enough either way, and Germans are much more likely to freeze to death than you or your tank.

No. Lack of standards across different factories resulted in a wide range of production quality. Some could run incredibly well for years with almost no issues, and some were pretty much broken as soon as they came off the production line. There was no standard design. Each factory made it themselves.

Those inconsistencies are pretty overstated in how they effected the war effort, though. As the war dragged on production did become more efficient, and even before that most tanks that saw battle were reliable. It was more idiotic leadership sending them on pointless deadly counter attacks than the tanks that caused squalid casualty rates. Either way they still would be more effective than German tanks, which came out in much less numbers and broke down far more often. They were good for the war the Soviets were fighting, an attritional one. It wasn’t about having the best tank, but rather the most good tanks out there fast enough. Unlike America the Soviets didn’t have the time or safety to ensure as good standards to things did have to be rushed. Still, in comparison to the Germans the quality and quantity was in good balance. That’s why they won the war.

Big myth! Lend lease only provided 7% of Soviet War expenditure according to most reliable sources. More importantly, practically all lend lease support came during and after 1943, after battles like Stalingrad, and didn’t really affect fighting in places like Kursk. That means that by the time the war was won (most historians say that it was basically over for Germany around 1942; their offensive potential was neutered by then) lend lease had just became a factor. At that point, Germany was no longer in any position to launch an offensive. They could only become weaker while the Soviets would become stronger. While those trucks and that high octane fuel and rubber did come in handy, the Soviets simply would have bought it and maybe took on some debt, still winning the war anyway. Germany was simply too weak at this point to ever conquer Russia.

Even delving into alternate history and assuming the west made peace and stopped fighting the Germans, things might end even worse in Barbarossa. When you look at the state of the Soviet military in 1941, they were in a post-purge transition state and actually preparing to invade Germany in around 1942. Stalin didn’t believe that the Germans would start a two front war and ignored his intelligence saying otherwise. He knew war was coming but expected that he would be able to strike first. If Germany somehow managed to take out the UK and not declare war on the US, then he’d know that the Germans were after him next and go into panic mode. Many generals that were purged into the gulags and released when the invasion had taken place would see their freedom early, and the country would have time to mobilize and go into defensive posture before the Germans attack. The amount of stuff this changes is mind boggling, but it means for one thing that the early collapse of the red army and encirclements of millions of soldiers are far less likely. That alone means that those additional land air and more importantly resources used by the Germans would be compensated for with much less casualties and a better held German advance. Realistically a competent Soviet command would have crushed the Germans from the start after retreating and regrouping a large force, basically what happened in our timeline but with much less land and blood lost.