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1967 Middle Eastern Map?

So I had an idea.

Wouldn't it be cool to have a Six Day's War Map?

It would be basically a HWW Map that only includes the Arab/Israeli region. The game would last six days. The Arab states would be all in a fixed coalition with each other, while Israel is completely on its own. The reason I suggest it like this is because:

A) Historical Accuracy

B) The Arab states will have mainly militia as their main force as it is Historically Based, whereas Israel will have a high-quality modern military made up of professional career soldiers not just from Israel, but also from the US, Germany, France, Britain, etc.

The game would start with Israel at war with everyone else on the map (being the United Arab Republic, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Kuwait, Egypt and Jordan). Israel wins if it has retained all of its land that it has at the start of the game, but it can conquer foreign territories. The Arab Coalition wins if they have not.

Most of the Arab States would be Axis doctrine, but they could be any doctrine depending on the government in place at the start of the Six Day's War. Meanwhile Israel is Allied, however we all know foreign aid played a huge role in this war. Any units at the start of the game that are there as a result of foreign aid would be given the doctrine of the country that they come from, while any units from Israel or produced in Israel will be given the Allied Doctrine.

As for the West Bank, it would start the game on 25% morale and qualify as a Non-Core province, whereas all other territories will start on 70% unless there is another province which was also won in battle, which I'm sure there are. And yes, Gaza will be a major city.

Each country will have 5 cities each.

One thing I would also like to have in this game mode is a Civilian Population count. This will give the Arab states an edge, which will become apparent later. The civilian population is the actual civilian population of each country in 1967. You can bring the civilian population down by Terrorist Attacks (perpetrated by Spies), or bombing campaigns, etc. If the civilian population goes down, it will affect the province morale and soldiers morale (another thing I'd like in this game. For every ten percent below target morale the soldiers are at the start of the game, they lose a Hitpoint. Bytro, plz add soldier morale). The Arab states will have an advantage here as they will start with plenty of spies, who you can send on terrorist attacks or suicide bombings. Israel could also use this to their advantage with total war bombing campaigns, however.

So what do you guys think? I would love to hear your feedback <3 :beer:

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2 Nov 2023, 15:58

the more I look at it

the more similarity I found the vietnam war to the eastern front

"Hate, union, freedom, justice, equality, war, peace, violence, blood. It is but a perfect mixture on destiny and our lives. It is for the mass we trust and for the mass we contribute, or to selfishly to personal greed we follow, it is up to your choices on what mixture you want. My mixture is a bit of everything with madness and humility in it, the virtues will black and sinful, just like I per say." - Kaiser Luther Ernst Willienburg.
2 Nov 2023, 15:59

Claudio NVKP wrote:

Well, it's practically impossible. The amount of propaganda is crazy. Rohingya's are gone.
Myanmar is doomed.
The President
2 Nov 2023, 16:00

alot of nations are doomed

"Hate, union, freedom, justice, equality, war, peace, violence, blood. It is but a perfect mixture on destiny and our lives. It is for the mass we trust and for the mass we contribute, or to selfishly to personal greed we follow, it is up to your choices on what mixture you want. My mixture is a bit of everything with madness and humility in it, the virtues will black and sinful, just like I per say." - Kaiser Luther Ernst Willienburg.
2 Nov 2023, 16:00

There is an entire civil war with hundreds of thousands of soldiers on both sides, it could go anyway. Wouldn’t be very difficult if the world got off its ass...


CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
2 Nov 2023, 16:02

the world either gonna be big super-states in the future or extremely small broke up states

"Hate, union, freedom, justice, equality, war, peace, violence, blood. It is but a perfect mixture on destiny and our lives. It is for the mass we trust and for the mass we contribute, or to selfishly to personal greed we follow, it is up to your choices on what mixture you want. My mixture is a bit of everything with madness and humility in it, the virtues will black and sinful, just like I per say." - Kaiser Luther Ernst Willienburg.
2 Nov 2023, 16:02

Vietnam would have lost and if not for the civil unrest in the US because the fricking liberals were saying were massacring the Vietnamese and burning entire forests and rice patties

2 Nov 2023, 16:03

Fox-Company wrote:

Vietnam would have lost and if not for the civil unrest in the US because the fricking liberals were saying were massacring the Vietnamese and burning entire forests and rice patties
gonna thank the liberals for that one
"Hate, union, freedom, justice, equality, war, peace, violence, blood. It is but a perfect mixture on destiny and our lives. It is for the mass we trust and for the mass we contribute, or to selfishly to personal greed we follow, it is up to your choices on what mixture you want. My mixture is a bit of everything with madness and humility in it, the virtues will black and sinful, just like I per say." - Kaiser Luther Ernst Willienburg.
2 Nov 2023, 16:04

Fox-Company wrote:

Vietnam would have lost and if not for the civil unrest in the US because the fricking liberals were saying were massacring the Vietnamese and burning entire forests and rice patties
They were 100% right, the US was doing that and worse, and America would have lost no matter what eventually. Just like in Afghanistan, Somalia or even Ukraine, it’s simply impossible to take over a well armed enough population that doesn’t want you there. That and the US couldn’t invade north Vietnam or China would join the war.

CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
2 Nov 2023, 16:06

Carking the 6th wrote:

Fox-Company wrote:

Vietnam would have lost and if not for the civil unrest in the US because the fricking liberals were saying were massacring the Vietnamese and burning entire forests and rice patties
They were 100% right, the US was doing that and worse, and America would have lost no matter what eventually. Just like in Afghanistan, Somalia or even Ukraine, it’s simply impossible to take over a well armed enough population that doesn’t want you there. That and the US couldn’t invade north Vietnam or China would join the war.
China wasn't gonna help them because the Vietnamese refused their aid, knowing the Chinese would want to take Vietnam themselves. Russia helped for free but eventully started asking for food in return.
2 Nov 2023, 16:08

I just hope one day china will get fucked hard

"Hate, union, freedom, justice, equality, war, peace, violence, blood. It is but a perfect mixture on destiny and our lives. It is for the mass we trust and for the mass we contribute, or to selfishly to personal greed we follow, it is up to your choices on what mixture you want. My mixture is a bit of everything with madness and humility in it, the virtues will black and sinful, just like I per say." - Kaiser Luther Ernst Willienburg.
2 Nov 2023, 16:09

China would never allow the US to encroach on their border. They would either put their differences aside or invade Vietnam themselves. Even then, the use would lost to Vietnam alone, considering how they lost to Afghanistan which is a much smaller and weaker target as well.


CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
2 Nov 2023, 16:11

never understand how they lost

"Hate, union, freedom, justice, equality, war, peace, violence, blood. It is but a perfect mixture on destiny and our lives. It is for the mass we trust and for the mass we contribute, or to selfishly to personal greed we follow, it is up to your choices on what mixture you want. My mixture is a bit of everything with madness and humility in it, the virtues will black and sinful, just like I per say." - Kaiser Luther Ernst Willienburg.
2 Nov 2023, 16:12

Carking the 6th wrote:

China would never allow the US to encroach on their border. They would either put their differences aside or invade Vietnam themselves. Even then, the use would lost to Vietnam alone, considering how they lost to Afghanistan which is a much smaller and weaker target as well.
That was my point, they'd rather invade Vietnam themselves, and we only lose to these smaller nations because the US citizens are snowflakes and as soon as a terrorist holding 2 hostages appears on tv, its: "Oh no we must stop this entire war to save 2 people or else ill be angry! 2 people matter more than 10k terrorists!" and if the Marines and SPF in Afaghanstan actually did their job, they'd be court martialed for killing too many 'civilians' we all know this. Veterans said it themselves.
2 Nov 2023, 16:14

Fox-Company wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

China would never allow the US to encroach on their border. They would either put their differences aside or invade Vietnam themselves. Even then, the use would lost to Vietnam alone, considering how they lost to Afghanistan which is a much smaller and weaker target as well.
That was my point, they'd rather invade Vietnam themselves, and we only lose to these smaller nations because the US citizens are snowflakes and as soon as a terrorist holding 2 hostages appears on tv, its: "Oh no we must stop this entire war to save 2 people or else ill be angry! 2 people matter more than 10k terrorists!" and if the Marines and SPF in Afaghanstan actually did their job, they'd be court martialed for killing too many 'civilians' we all know this. Veterans said it themselves.
"B-but but that man was a civillian!! He being there when the bomb explode and being seen on the battlefield is propaganda to make us support this cruel war!! WE need t-to save and fight for Afghanistani and hostages!"

- Libtard prob

"Hate, union, freedom, justice, equality, war, peace, violence, blood. It is but a perfect mixture on destiny and our lives. It is for the mass we trust and for the mass we contribute, or to selfishly to personal greed we follow, it is up to your choices on what mixture you want. My mixture is a bit of everything with madness and humility in it, the virtues will black and sinful, just like I per say." - Kaiser Luther Ernst Willienburg.
2 Nov 2023, 16:16

Veterans also said they couldn’t win? You carpet bombed the country with more than twice every bomb used in ww2. America sure as hell ignored their casualties and the same thing kept on happening. Are you saying that the US would magically win if they kept on throwing thousands into the near grinder? You also can’t forget that the reason they didn’t persecute themselves for war crimes is because they didn’t care. They’d have to murder millions of Vietnamese to win, and even then it wouldn’t last. The only thing you’d get is a big sunk cost fallacy and the US looking like Russia after Afghanistan, only helps the Soviets if anything.


CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
2 Nov 2023, 16:18

Carking the 6th wrote:

Veterans also said they couldn’t win? You carpet bombed the country with more than twice every bomb used in ww2. America sure as hell ignored their casualties and the same thing kept on happening. Are you saying that the US would magically win if they kept on throwing thousands into the near grinder? You also can’t forget that the reason they didn’t persecute themselves for war crimes is because they didn’t care. They’d have to murder millions of Vietnamese to win, and even then it wouldn’t last. The only thing you’d get is a big sunk cost fallacy and the US looking like Russia after Afghanistan, only helps the Soviets if anything.
I switched to Afighanistan, i went off the topic of VIetnam, sir.
2 Nov 2023, 16:21

both are small countries with militia and harsh enviroment with insanely high casualties on the "bad" side

"Hate, union, freedom, justice, equality, war, peace, violence, blood. It is but a perfect mixture on destiny and our lives. It is for the mass we trust and for the mass we contribute, or to selfishly to personal greed we follow, it is up to your choices on what mixture you want. My mixture is a bit of everything with madness and humility in it, the virtues will black and sinful, just like I per say." - Kaiser Luther Ernst Willienburg.
2 Nov 2023, 16:21

America never pulled out of Afghanistan because of hostages and literally had a no-negotiation policy with them, though? America left after 20 years because they failed to create a stable government that could hold its own country AND failed to wipe out the rebels even WITH support from other countries and a huge advantage in all categories other than geography.


CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
2 Nov 2023, 16:22

in other words, USA got skill issues

"Hate, union, freedom, justice, equality, war, peace, violence, blood. It is but a perfect mixture on destiny and our lives. It is for the mass we trust and for the mass we contribute, or to selfishly to personal greed we follow, it is up to your choices on what mixture you want. My mixture is a bit of everything with madness and humility in it, the virtues will black and sinful, just like I per say." - Kaiser Luther Ernst Willienburg.
2 Nov 2023, 23:51

I don't think you understand how that war went, the Afghan rebels were basically nomads in the mountains who constantly kept attacking and garnered support over many years because of a "Free Islamic Afghanistan." That "war" wasn't conventional by any means. Over twenty years ago when the US came to the country the highest fatalities per year was in 2010 with 498, with a grand total in 21 years of 2,456 soldiers. Nobody wants another Vietnam style war, the Pentagon has become politicized so having a catastrophic casualty rate just to take out some mountain terrorists would be catastrophic and further degrading on the already disliked Bush, Obama, and Trump. The Conquest of the Middle East settled down after Bush and his associates left office and the US maintained a smaller presence in the country. There is no way the fighters in Afghanistan would allow a western allied government to be in their country, so a stable government would be unlikely. I'm not an expert, but I think it's safe to say that we are viewed as the Soviets were in the 80s.

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