A testing environment for battles

Didn't i see the exact same tread a small week ago?

I seriously doubt (and certainly not by me). But I would agree with whoever proposed it independently.

But why not simply take one of the small maps as private one with password ? -- preferably together with a player you know.

I think that will cause no more server load than an other, extra map, which before even has to be new invented.

..and with disabled anti-cheat the losses in test fights will has no negative impact in the Statistics.

Restrisiko wrote:

But why not simply take one of the small maps as private one with password ? -- preferably together with a player you know.

I think that will cause no more server load than an other, extra map, which before even has to be new invented.

..and with disabled anti-cheat the losses in test fights will has no negative impact in the Statistics.

If it's a pure testing zone, there is no reason to limit the timeframe to only 2 days.

Things I'd include for a pure testing zone:

• Completed Research
• 5-Day Length
• No Units at Start
• Limited to 1 testing game per month
• Max buildings built
• 2 Nations (20 provinces each)
  • These nations are loaded with resource provinces: 4 food provinces, 5 good provinces, 4 metal provinces, 4 oil provinces, and 3 rare material provinces. There's also 5 mountain provinces, 5 cities, 5 plains and 5 hills.
• Both nations start with 100,000 food, 200,000 goods, 150,000 metal, 100,000 oil, and 50,000 rare materials.

atreas1 wrote:

I thought of that, but it would require days (or even weeks) to build the troops I want to check. While I could manually put troops in minutes...

atreas1 wrote:

it would require days (or even weeks)

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step

BMfox wrote:

Didn't i see the exact same tread a small week ago?

>>> HERE <<<

VorlonFCW wrote:

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step

Give us the tools and we will finish the job

atreas1 wrote:

VorlonFCW wrote:

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step

What about

Give us the tools and we will finish the job

atreas1 wrote:

Restrisiko wrote:

But why not simply take one of the small maps as private one with password ? -- preferably together with a player you know.

I think that will cause no more server load than an other, extra map, which before even has to be new invented.

..and with disabled anti-cheat the losses in test fights will has no negative impact in the Statistics.

I thought of that, but it would require days (or even weeks) to build the troops I want to check. While I could manually put troops in minutes...

Great. Then publish somewhere (anywhere) the exact formula for the battle mechanism, even without the details of the functions. It requires 0 work for you, it keeps everybody happy, and it proves that you respect even the 0.01% of your customers (which is good company practice).

Sadly we also cannot do that. First of all it is not just a simple formula that just takes up some lines of code, but the combat logic is spread over maaaany places in the code (thousands of lines), and is intertwined with many different features. Therefore its not possible to just copy out some formula. It would also require work from us to make a comprehensible formula for the public out of it, and even then it may not be 100% accurate anymore because the connections to some other features are lost in that formula. Besides that, its kind of intellectual property, like the rest of the game code, and no company liks to share such property. Plus, we don't want to have 100% accurate combat simulators swirling around somewhere, as this gives unfair advantages to the few players who happen to have these.

Making players happy is good company practice, yes, but you can try to find other browser/mobile games which publish their internal formulas. I would guess that this is a very rare thing and thus not common practice. Spending time on making only 0.01% of the customers happy takes away time from making the 99.99% of customers happy, which has priority (since we dont have unlimited working time). Thanks for your understanding.

Being myself a programmer I absolutely understand the difficulties. I also understand that up to a year ago a very nice tool (created by one of the players) was covering this need. Unfortunately, it has not been updated it seems (SBDE data are clearly obsolete and wrong) and there is no way to test the patrol function there. Thus my initial request.

I understand your request as well, it only shows how dedicated you are to the game. Of course you try to understand everything about a game that you like.

I have to say that the fan made simulator was quite good, but even a year ago before being outdated it was not 100% accurate, as it missed some aspects of the combat system and didn't have some of the interconnections that I was talking about in the previous post. Basically it was trying to re-engineer the combat system by trying to mimick the results you see in the game as close as possible, but by using different means than the means which are used internally by the game. Still it's sad to see support for such nice projects cease to exist.

Ah well maybe one day we can invest in making the combat system easier to understand. Maybe...