AIR CONVOYS

Okay, so, before the admin thinks this is a paratrooper thread, or before you the reader thinks this is a paratrooper thread, hell no this is not a paratrooper thread. This is about, AIR CONVOYS, and why they should be added to the game.

Why?

- Because, we need a fast way to move troops from one location to another.

Limitations?

- Air convoys would function a lot like regular convoys, except that, they would fly there and would not take as long to get to their location. They would also require an airfield to take off from, and an airfield to land at. Of course, I know that certain individuals on this forum would say that the amount of air planes required to move a division was not in existence, but still, you have to agree. Marching troops from across your country that you need ASAP is pretty stressful?

What are they used for?

- They would be used to transport troops at tactical bomber speeds from one airfield to another, the only unit that could not be transported is the heavy tank due to the fact that it is a heavy tank.

Functions?

- The unit being transported would have to embark on the plane, and disembark, and the air convoy would function much like an ocean convoy. So, Example:

> Unit needs to be transported.

> Unit moves to a functional airfield.

> Unit embarks on the plane for about an hour.

> Unit flies to the airfield that (of course) is functional.

> Unit disembarks the plane for another hour.

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JCS Darragh wrote:

. . . the only unit that could not be transported is the heavy tank due to the fact that it is a heavy tank.
No brigade-size armor unit could be moved by air transport during World War II because no country had a fleet of transport aircraft that were capable of carrying anything bigger than a cut-down light tank, and those required an often dangerous glider landing that got the glider crew killed. While the Germans did experiment with large cargo plane prototypes, they eventually gave up because the technology was not yet ripe. No-one had C-130s, C-5s or C-17s.

Tanks traveled by road under their own power, on tank transporters (flatbeds) pulled by trucks, by rail, and by cargo ship when crossing water. With only a few rare exceptions, tanks did not move by air during World War II. And given the choice, they still don't unless it is absolutely necessary because of the stress it puts on aircraft engines and airframes. Moreover, there are only a handful of countries that can move a main battle tank by air in the year 2017, and only one or two that have that capacity to move an entire division (3 to 4 brigades, or roughly 300 to 400 tanks) quickly. Moving large numbers of tanks, of any size, by air during WW2 just didn't happen.

As for moving infantry regiments by air transport, let's also keep in mind that the combined efforts of Britain and the United States could only muster the required air transport to drop three airborne divisions (the equivalent of 9 to 12 regiments) on two occasions, and that was a Herculean effort both times (Overlord, Marketgarden). Most modern infantry moved by truck and transport ship; and a lot of it still walked in WW2.

All of that said, any proposal to add the new ability to move in-game infantry by air transport must be severely limited in order to maintain any semblance of WW2 reality. Moving more than the equivalent of a division (3 to 4 regiments) by air in one 24-hour period would be a good place to start the discussion.

The germans did experiment with transportation helicopters and stuff like that but that was ultra ultra rare. The only units I find that can be transported are motorized infantry and regular infantry but in real life they were transported over dozens of planes but this is call of war in real life you couldnt just send a unit in the ocean with two hours disembarking time ? They could find a way to make this work if they wanted to.

MontanaBB wrote:

any proposal to add the new ability to move in-game infantry by air transport must be severely limited in order to maintain any semblance of WW2 reality
Yea. Cause this is real :)

Air transports could be a good addition to the game..

..and even halfway more realistic then some other things >>

However, in my opinion, ingame only foot soldiers (infantry, commandos and militia) as well as AA and AT should be transportable.

Idea for requirements: Strategic bomber level 5 researched; Start-, interim- and landing airport at least level 2; Time to load/ unload each 1 hour.

Conversion into transport planes automatically as with sea convoys - a choice option Land / Air for the marching button would be required.

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