aircraft carriers

how about the game introduces a new unit of aircraft carriers with fighters and naval bombers. the ultimate unit. the more you upgrade it, the more aircraft you are able to launch. ships come with planes at the ready

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Nope, but they are coming.

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winter is coming

No, autumn is. It is still summer.

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I think the Royal Navy never did manage to produce a successful dive bomber, the Blackburn Skua was proved to be an inept aircraft in Norway and Taranto, I guess they liked their Swordfish better and preferred to buy American Pkanes and make them their own like the Grumman Gannet (Hellcat)

British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

I have a question.

If the carrier come out how it will be operated?

Strat and tac Bomber is out of the question, but I just come up with an idea.

I think in-game carriers are not movable airfields, I think when we build a carrier it already have planes with it, these planes are fighter-bombers, torp fighter-Bomber, and dive bomber but are used the same way as battleships.

If the carrier attack naval units then the carrier will launch NPC planes acting as NB that can be shot down by anti-air, if the carrier attack ground units or air units same procedure apply, the carrier can only attack one target at a time.

I was under the impression that the carrier is another airfield but after thinking about it that's not the case.

"Victory needs no explenation, defeat allows none"
-imperium thought of the day

You know that it could go on different missions at the same time, right? It could defend with one squadron while another attacks something else.

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Yeah, with half strenght. Carriers at the time fly with a specific mission in mind, there are always fighter escorts but it's about finishing their primary objective by mission, if the mission is sink the enemy they sink it with torps, splitting the airforce in multiple missions must not be done, unless there are other carriers to fulfill the mission.

the missions of carriers are not made by the carrier captains, it is made by the overall commander of the fleet in the area, this is to coordinate their firepower and resource.

The most basic fundamental principle of naval warfare is to keep the fleet alive, splitting the fleet and in extension th eavailable air power is not only a bad move, it will jeopardize the fleet condition by giving your plane away in half strenght.

"Victory needs no explenation, defeat allows none"
-imperium thought of the day

Alright, but how would we simulate lost aircraft? AIrcraft that crash on deck too. I was watching a documentary where an entire/multiple carriers air force was sent on a mission, a lot came back but some didn't. Out of the ones that did come back, an awful lot crashed on deck.

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It's difficult to simulate something like that in-game but if I have to guess, the morale of the carrier it's "effectiveness" is based on its plane.

When the carrier planes are intercepted by enemy interceptors then the effectiveness of the carrier is reduced as well morale

At this point I'm only guessing, I'm sure the devs have something in mind

"Victory needs no explenation, defeat allows none"
-imperium thought of the day

i dont think carriers coming with their squadrons once built a nice idea.

You build a carrier and then you build the squadrons you want to group in that carrier , once grouped with the carrier you effectively now have a moving airbase that is sailing the seas. Is indeed an expensive process and it should be

I think the squadrons that should be available are : Naval Fighter , Fighter-Bomber Squadron, Naval Bombers

When you order a squadron to attack its target it would take damage just as normal land squadron does

You know that some of the fighters in game are actually naval fighters? I think the 4F4 is one of them.

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GeneralPhara wrote:

i dont think carriers coming with their squadrons once built a nice idea.

You build a carrier and then you build the squadrons you want to group in that carrier , once grouped with the carrier you effectively now have a moving airbase that is sailing the seas. Is indeed an expensive process and it should be

I think the squadrons that should be available are : Naval Fighter , Fighter-Bomber Squadron, Naval Bombers

When you order a squadron to attack its target it would take damage just as normal land squadron does

What about regular bombers? In the Pacific they launched bombers off aircraft carriers in the Doolittle Raids (I believe) and they barely made it to their target. I think it'd add meaning to bombers in the ocean if we could launch them from the carriers, without island-hopping.

I like the idea, I said it myself but people put it down, saying it was stupid ;(

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i think regular bombers ( strategic/tactical) were too large for carrier of ww2 standards

They were too big for stuff to land on them, they could take off fine most of the time. I would like it if you could do a bombing run with strat/tac bombers from a carrier as long as a friendly airfield was still in range.

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hmm maybe the later tiers in the carrier tree can allow takeoff of tactical bombers? Unless they add carriers to the secret branch with no tiers

That sounds good, yes. I like that. Maybe we could go a little deeper into aircraft and have light tac bombers(up to lvl 3) and then the normal bombers. They would be like the normal tac bombers, just faster, weaker and able to take off a lvl 1 AC.

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I think you have just described the fighter-bomber :) Abit weaker than tac bombers against land troops but better against interceptors conpared to tac bombers

No, a light bomber wouldn't be able to hold its own in a dogfight, or even aerial combat of any kind.

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well it is more maneuverable than tac bombers hence harder for interceptors to shoot it :)

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