Anti-Heavy Armour Tank

So as we now have the flame tank, we have offensive tanks against every armour class except heavy armour. (TD is defensive)

So I propose adding a tank that is offensive and is geared towards heavy armoured. Ik RRG may count, but I’m talking about a melee tank against heavy armour.

Looking for improvement.

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That's true, but like we have rockets, flying bombs, RRG, and the flame- tank, even though they never had there own set divisions and where integrated into our basic tank things now.

The_tank_Man wrote:

I mean in history the best thing to fight offensive against a tank was a... tank. But I was thinking a "Sappers" unit or a " Panzergrenadier" unit??
Commandoes actually have pretty decent offensive power vs. heavy armour, 6.0 at lvl.1 allied I believe. Look them up.(source: @DavidDurik did a video on them).

Both the units you suggested appear to be unarmoured infantry units dealing damage primarily against armour. Commandoes fill this role effectively.

In addition:

a) Sappers are primarily engineers, concerned with enabling mobility of an army by gun-laying, digging siege works, trenches, building roads, &c. Their role in this would be to erect and remove fortifications and to build infrastructure. This is simulated well already and as such sappers are unnecessary.

b) Panzergrenadiers operated in small units attached to infantry regiments. They or battalion guns probably are what gives infantry anti-tank damage already. Again, commandoes have decent AT damage.

Therefore I don't think either unit should, can, or has to exist in Call of War, since their roles already exist. But I like your ideas.

The_tank_Man wrote:

That's true, but like we have rockets, flying bombs, RRG, and the flame- tank, even though they never had there own set divisions and where integrated into our basic tank things now.
Not quite true, rockets and flying bombs had special squadrons in the Luftwaffe and the IJNAS (Special Attack Units) (and after 1945 the RAF) dedicated to them.

Railway guns did have their own regiments -- see the Royal Marine Siege Regiment which operated the BL 13.5in guns Gladiator, Piece Maker and Scene Shifter during the war. I can't confirm but I'm pretty sure Schwerer Gustav had her own dedicated regiment too.

IMO the flame tank shouldn't exist IMO though, because they were only used as parts of tank regiments.

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A pretty mechanical toy [...] the war will never be won by such machines.
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Oh! Well thank you for the info on the troop regiments. Yeah flame tank should be in the normal tank research branch haha.Though totally agree with you on that, we need new units though, not a flame tank you get from doing operations.

That DavidDurik guy is strange lol


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The_tank_Man wrote:

Oh! Well thank you for the info on the troop regiments. Yeah flame tank should be in the normal tank research branch haha.Though totally agree with you on that, we need new units though, not a flame tank you get from doing operations.
I think I agree with everything you just said.

JASLOLY wrote:

WednesdayAddams wrote:

Just checked

The allied td has better stats vs heavy than vs light

That should be for all TD
i think it is tho

I think making Heavy Tanks deal more damage to heavy armor would solve this problem.

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Taffyta Muttonfudge wrote:

I think making Heavy Tanks deal more damage to heavy armor would solve this problem
Heavy tanks tend to be expensive and impractical as you progress in the game, and they actually become quite vulnerable to ranged attacks or people simply going around.

Pretty realistic. They were mostly useless in real life as well.


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Carking the 6th wrote:

Pretty realistic. They were mostly useless in real life as well.
B-but, if Germany made 100 Maus they would have won the war

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Taffyta Muttonfudge wrote:

I think making Heavy Tanks deal more damage to heavy armor would solve this problem.
Thats abt right

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Pretty realistic. They were mostly useless in real life as well.
B-but, if Germany made 100 Maus they would have won the war

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They would have won the war for the Allies, correct.
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Carking the 6th wrote:

A sane, intelligent argument that I would have agreed with before I learned just how successful some of the the German wunderwaffe that they never used turned out to be. But by the time the Allies landed in France it was only a matter of time no matter what.
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Germany didn’t have the resources to mass produce those, and most of these technologies were in their infancy and still useless in a war anyway, to be honest. Just looking at the numbers, it was over the second the Germans marched into the Soviet Union, or declared war on the US. They were doomed by 1942.


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Carking the 6th wrote:

Germany didn’t have the resources to mass produce those, and most of these technologies were in their infancy and still useless in a war anyway, to be honest. Just looking at the numbers, it was over the second the Germans marched into the Soviet Union, or declared war on the US. They were doomed by 1942.
It just wasnt realistic

I was specifically talking about the German chemical weapons program, which by 1939 produced weapons which did not have an independently developed equivalent until the 1960s. Gas masks issued by the Allies during ww2 would have been mostly ineffective. There were key points in operation Barbarossa where unveiling this could have helped break the Russian Army. Or maybe not.

Obviously Hitler didn’t like chemical warfare and didn’t use chemical weapons at all, and the allies all had chemical weapons of their own, but the Allies didn’t have anything new since the first world war.

This isn’t just a matter of making more tanks or bigger bombs. This would have completely changed the way WW2 was fought to the point it would be almost unrecognizable as the same war.

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Probably not. I doubt they had enough gas to make a real effect and they’d be gassed right back, one weapon won’t shift such a major war.


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Carking the 6th wrote:

Pretty realistic. They were mostly useless in real life as well.
Tell that to one of the tank platoons who got all their vehicles destroyed when they met a single Tiger tank.

Yeah, I know what you're going to say about production and maintenance. Still.

Tell that to the 50 tiger tanks that got bombed into oblivion by artillery or planes as well. Or the ocasional anecdotes of single medium tanks destroying them. Have to remember that stories and anecdotes are not the best form of evidence!


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