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British Research Tree

Militia:

  1. 1932
  2. 1934
  3. 1936
  4. 1938
  5. 1940
  6. 1942
  7. Elite 1942
Infantry:

  1. 1932
  2. 1934
  3. 1938
  4. 1942
  5. 1946
  6. Elite 1946
Motorized Infantry:

  1. 1938
  2. 1941
  3. 1944
  4. 1947
  5. 1950
  6. Elite 1950
Mechanized Infantry:

  1. 1944
  2. 1946
  3. 1948
  4. 1950
  5. 1952
  6. Elite 1952
Armored Cars:

  1. Lanchester Mk I
  2. Guy Mk I
  3. Daimler Mk II
  4. Coventry Mk II
  5. Elite Coventry Mk II
Light Tanks:

  1. Carden Loyd Mk VI
  2. Light Tank Mk VI
  3. Tetrarch Mk VII
  4. Harry Hopkins Mk VIII
  5. Elite Harry Hopkins Mk VIII
Medium Tanks:

  1. Cruiser Mk IV
  2. Crusader III
  3. Mk VIII Cromwell
  4. Comet Tank
  5. Centurion
  6. Elite Centurion
Heavy Tanks:

  1. Mk IV Churchill
  2. Black Prince Tank
  3. Conqueror Mk I
  4. Elite Conqueror Mk
Tank Destroyers:

  1. Deacon
  2. Achilles
  3. Archer
  4. Churchill 3-inch Gun Carrier
  5. Elite Churchill 3-inch Gun Carrier
Anti-Tank:

  1. Ordnance QF 2-pounder
  2. Ordnance QF 6-pounder
  3. Ordnance QF 17-pounder
  4. Ordnance QF 20-Pounder
  5. Ordnance QF 32-Pounder
  6. Elite Ordnance QF 32-Pounder
Artillery:

  1. Ordnance BL 60-pounder
  2. BL 8-inch howitzer Mk VIII
  3. BL 4.5-inch Medium Field Gun
  4. BL 7.2-inch howitzer Mk VI
  5. Ordnance QF 25-pounder
  6. Elite Ordnance QF 25-Pounder
SP Artillery:

  1. Birch Gun
  2. Bishop
  3. Sexton II
  4. Elite Sexton II
Anti-Air

  1. 20 mm Oerlikon
  2. 40 mm Bofors
  3. QF 3-inch 20-cwt
  4. QF 3.7-inch AA gun
  5. QF 4.5-Inch
  6. Elite QF 4.5-Inch
SP Anti Air:

  1. Mounted QF 3-inch Gun
  2. Mounted QF 13-pounder
  3. AA Mk III
  4. Elite AA Mk III
Interceptor:

  1. Gloster Gladiator
  2. Hawker Hurricane
  3. Supermarine Spitfire
  4. Hawker Tempest
  5. Gloster Meteor
  6. de Havilland Vampire
  7. Elite de Havilland Vampire
Tactical Bomber:

  1. Hawker Hind
  2. Fairey Battle
  3. Bristol Blenheim
  4. Bristol Beaufighter
  5. De Havilland Mosquito
  6. English Electric Canberra
  7. Elite English Electric Canberra
Strategic Bomber:

  1. Armstrong Whitworth Whitley
  2. Vickers Wellington
  3. Short Stirling
  4. Avro Lancaster
  5. Avro Lincoln
  6. Handley Page Victor
  7. Elite Handley Page Victor
Naval Bomber:

  1. Fairey Swordfish
  2. Fairey Albacore
  3. Blackburn B-24 Skua
  4. Fairey Barracuda
  5. Fairey Firefly
  6. Westland Wyvern
  7. Elite Westland Wyvern
Destroyer:

  1. 'A' Class
  2. 'C' Class
  3. 'E' Class
  4. 'G' Class
  5. 'K' Class
  6. Tribal Class
  7. Elite Tribal Class
Submarine:

  1. S Class
  2. River Class
  3. Grampus Class
  4. Parthian Class
  5. U Class
  6. V Class
  7. Elite V Class
Cruiser:

  1. Leander Class
  2. Arethusa Class
  3. Town Class
  4. Dido Class
  5. Crown Colony Class
  6. Minotaur Class
  7. Elite Minotaur Class
Battleship:

  1. Queen Elizabeth Class
  2. Revenge Class
  3. Nelson Class
  4. King George V Class
  5. Lion Class
  6. Vanguard Class
  7. Elite Vanguard Class
Airplane Carrier:

  1. Argus Class
  2. Glorious Class
  3. Hermes Class
  4. Ark Royal Class
  5. Illustrious Class
  6. Majestic Class
  7. Elite Majestic Class
Rocket:

  1. RAE Larynx
  2. We.177
  3. Blue Steel
  4. PGM-17 Thor
Rocket Interceptor:

  1. Saunders-Roe SR.53
Railroad Gun:

  1. BL 18-Inch Railway Howitzer
Commandos:

  1. Commandos
Nuclear Reactor:

  1. Level 1
  2. Level 2
  3. Level 3
  4. Level 4
  5. Level 5
Nuclear Battleship:

  1. Nuclear-powered HMS Vanguard
Nuclear Submarine:

  1. HMS Dreadnought
Nuclear Airplane Carrier:

  1. Nuclear Majestic Class
Atomic Bomb:

  1. Level 1
  2. Level 2
  3. Level 3
Nuclear Rocket:

  1. PGM-17 Thor
Nuclear Bombers:

  1. Handley Page Halifax
  2. Avro Lancaster
  3. V-Class Bombers

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10 Apr 2016, 17:41

Pablo22510 wrote:

Still, they were pretty good ships.
They really were not, they were in docks most of the time. Anyway, you should know that BB were obsolete at this point.
10 Apr 2016, 17:45

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

Still, they were pretty good ships.
They really were not, they were in docks most of the time. Anyway, you should know that BB were obsolete at this point.
They were NOT. German pocket BB's wreaked havoc in the Atlantic, and a BB's firepower is NOT to be messed with.
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10 Apr 2016, 17:45

Quasi-duck wrote:

Nah, they weren't. Only two ships actually sat well in the water and all of them had very short barrel life on their guns. On top of this, the British guns had a longer range, better targeting equipment and techniques as well as much more experience. On top of all this, the Brits had better morale too.
The British had better ships.

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10 Apr 2016, 17:46

Pablo22510 wrote:

They were NOT. German pocket BB's wreaked havoc in the Atlantic, and a BB's firepower is NOT to be messed with.
Really? Then why were more CV built than BB and all of Germany's BB sunk by planes and CV?
10 Apr 2016, 17:48

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

They were NOT. German pocket BB's wreaked havoc in the Atlantic, and a BB's firepower is NOT to be messed with.
Really? Then why were more CV built than BB and all of Germany's BB sunk by planes and CV?
'Cos Germany didn't know much about surface fleet tactics.
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10 Apr 2016, 17:51

Pablo22510 wrote:

'Cos Germany didn't know much about surface fleet tactics.
What about Japanese BB? The biggest Pacific naval battle never had the ships meet or fire at each other!
10 Apr 2016, 17:52

Quasi-duck wrote:

The biggest Pacific naval battle never had the ships meet or fire at each other!
I don't understand...
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10 Apr 2016, 17:55

Pablo22510 wrote:

I don't understand...
A BB's guns do not matter if they do not fire, do they?
10 Apr 2016, 18:21

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

I don't understand...
A BB's guns do not matter if they do not fire, do they?
Oh, I see. But the Axis lost. We're talking about USA.
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10 Apr 2016, 18:22

Pablo22510 wrote:

Oh, I see. But the Axis lost. We're talking about USA.
The US BB did not fire their guns in the battle either. During Pacific island bombardment, DD close to shore did much better than the BB ever could or did.
23 May 2016, 14:42

Pablo22510 wrote:

Interceptor:

Gloster Gladiator

Curtiss P-36 Hawk

Bristol Beaufighter

Hawker Hurricane

Hawker Typhoon

Supermarine Spitfire

I think we should drop the Typhoon, put the Spitfire in 5th place and insert the glorious Gloster Meteor: as it was the first allied Fighter jet, and it works well with the German lvl 6 fighter.
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23 May 2016, 15:56 (edited)

Why is the P-36 there anyways? It is American, not British.

23 May 2016, 19:29

I really hope this becomes a thing, it should have priority to be he next tech tree. Plus I wanna see British units! :D

23 May 2016, 19:35

Not A Communist wrote:

I really hope this becomes a thing, it should have priority to be he next tech tree. Plus I wanna see British units! :D
Well, I already did half the work for them. I built the research tree! They just need to tweak it, and make the skins.
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23 May 2016, 19:36

Quasi-duck wrote:

Why is the P-36 there anyways? It is American, British.TankBuster wrote:

TankBuster wrote:

I think we should drop the Typhoon, put the Spitfire in 5th place and insert the glorious Gloster Meteor: as it was the first allied Fighter jet, and it works well with the German lvl 6 fighter.
I'll do a combination of both. I'll drop the P-36 and put in the Golster Meteor.
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26 May 2016, 02:21

TankBuster wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

Interceptor:

Gloster Gladiator

Curtiss P-36 Hawk

Bristol Beaufighter

Hawker Hurricane

Hawker Typhoon

Supermarine Spitfire

I think we should drop the Typhoon, put the Spitfire in 5th place and insert the glorious Gloster Meteor: as it was the first allied Fighter jet, and it works well with the German lvl 6 fighter.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

Why is the P-36 there anyways? It is American, British.TankBuster wrote:

TankBuster wrote:

I think we should drop the Typhoon, put the Spitfire in 5th place and insert the glorious Gloster Meteor: as it was the first allied Fighter jet, and it works well with the German lvl 6 fighter.
I'll do a combination of both. I'll drop the P-36 and put in the Golster Meteor.
With all due respect, there's even more for improvement here. The P-36 should definitely be omitted, as should the Gloster Meteor be inserted.

However, let's remember that the Meteor was the first allied fighter to become operational, and thus a contemporary of the Me 262, which is a lvl 5 fighter under the German tree. As such, I think we should include the DeHavilland Vampire. It was on the verge of operational status by the war's end, as were the P-80 Shooting Star and Heinkel He-162, both already included as lvl 6 interceptors in their respective tech trees.

I think it is reasonable to remove the Typhoon. Though designed as an interceptor, it found its niche as a close air support aircraft. Its successor, the Tempest, however, is one of the finest allied piston fighters of the war.

My proposal for a revised British interceptor tree:

LevelAircraft
1Gloster Gladiator
2Hawker Hurricane
3Supermarine Spitfire
4Hawker Tempest
5Gloster Meteor
6DeHavilland Vampire

Best Regards Everyone! :thumbsup:

26 May 2016, 12:16

Liberinsula wrote:

TankBuster wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

Interceptor:

Gloster Gladiator

Curtiss P-36 Hawk

Bristol Beaufighter

Hawker Hurricane

Hawker Typhoon

Supermarine Spitfire

I think we should drop the Typhoon, put the Spitfire in 5th place and insert the glorious Gloster Meteor: as it was the first allied Fighter jet, and it works well with the German lvl 6 fighter.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

Why is the P-36 there anyways? It is American, British.TankBuster wrote:

TankBuster wrote:

I think we should drop the Typhoon, put the Spitfire in 5th place and insert the glorious Gloster Meteor: as it was the first allied Fighter jet, and it works well with the German lvl 6 fighter.
I'll do a combination of both. I'll drop the P-36 and put in the Golster Meteor.
With all due respect, there's even more for improvement here. The P-36 should definitely be omitted, as should the Gloster Meteor be inserted.

However, let's remember that the Meteor was the first allied fighter to become operational, and thus a contemporary of the Me 262, which is a lvl 5 fighter under the German tree. As such, I think we should include the DeHavilland Vampire. It was on the verge of operational status by the war's end, as were the P-80 Shooting Star and Heinkel He-162, both already included as lvl 6 interceptors in their respective tech trees.

I think it is reasonable to remove the Typhoon. Though designed as an interceptor, it found its niche as a close air support aircraft. Its successor, the Tempest, however, is one of the finest allied piston fighters of the war.

My proposal for a revised British interceptor tree:

LevelAircraft
1Gloster Gladiator
2Hawker Hurricane
3Supermarine Spitfire
4Hawker Tempest
5Gloster Meteor
6DeHavilland Vampire

Best Regards Everyone! :thumbsup:

I agree, using a similar sort of view to the German tree, and matching it plane for plane, seems better. I believe the vampire was also used for carriers, which seems to fit in better.
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"Hit first ! Hit hard ! Keep on hitting ! ! (The 3 H's)" Admiral Jackie Fisher
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26 May 2016, 15:04

9/10 here's my only suggestion:

Get rid of the firefly, as that was a British variant of an American tank, put the comet where the firefly was, and add the centurion as the top level tank.

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26 May 2016, 17:32

Updated. I was thinking, the M7 Priest was only American-used. Any ideas for anything that could replace it?

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