Comprehensive Suggestion List

Quasi-duck wrote:

Yeah, what about it? In Communism, everyone is equal.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Not A Communist wrote:

A Communist and a Feminist Quasi?

Yeah, what about it? In Communism, everyone is equal.

And some (pigs) are more equal

Quasi-duck wrote:

Not A Communist wrote:

A Communist and a Feminist Quasi?

Yeah, what about it? In Communism, everyone is equal.

oceanhawk wrote:

Equally starving... unless you just so happen to be the communist Leaders..

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Equally starving... unless you just so happen to be the communist Leaders..

You want to take money off of poor people, you can't say anything.

Quasi-duck wrote:

You want to take money off of poor people, you can't say anything.

oceanhawk wrote:

I never said that, why would somebody take money off the poor?

Pablo22510 wrote:

We don't take money from the poor.

oceanhawk wrote:

That makes more people get hired, and the poorer people get of welfare and get a chance to climb the ladder and do well in life..

All this because there was no minimum wage, so the cheapest people were hired on salaries that barely let them buy bread.

Name one country without minimum wage laws, that does not have slum areas.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Name one country without minimum wage laws, that does not have slum areas.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Not you, Ocean. I never mentioned you. You're not the moron saying take money away from people with no education in a day and age when you can sue people for hiring people who haven't been trained in that job.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Name one country that doesn't have slum areas.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Oceanhawk never said that.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

That makes more people get hired, and the poorer people get of welfare and get a chance to climb the ladder and do well in life..

Name one country without minimum wage laws, that does not have slum areas.

Now name one country where socialism or communism has worked in Full...

Yes it is related to this discussion, as they are very very union and regulation supporters...

oceanhawk wrote:

Now name one country where socialism or communism has worked in Full...

Yes it is related to this discussion, as they are very very union and regulation supporters...

oceanhawk wrote:

Switzerland.....

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

Oceanhawk never said that.

He wants to remove free public schools and minimum wage. So basically, yeah, he did.

I want to move more people to private schools...

And Min wage, yea Id right it right off...

It is disgusting, that min wage hurts the poor...

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Now name one country where socialism or communism has worked in Full...

Yes it is related to this discussion, as they are very very union and regulation supporters...

That is completely unrelated, and I didn't even know we were OT anyways.

oceanhawk wrote:

Switzerland.....

Ah yes, the tax haven. I don't want to ruin this thread further, so I'll head off. Bet you couldn't name five.

See, it is the leftest brain to run at failure..

oceanhawk wrote:

Tell me where I said I want to remove Public schools?

Quasi-duck wrote:

I don't want to ruin this thread further, so I'll head off

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Tell me where I said I want to remove Public schools?

Read your own damn posts in the OT thread.

Quasi-duck wrote:

I don't want to ruin this thread further, so I'll head off

Pablo22510 wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

You want to take money off of poor people, you can't say anything.

We don't take money from the poor. Flat income tax rates are taking the same amount of money from everyone.

There hasn't been a "flat" income tax in three generations. The lying liberals who violated the Constitutional rules for implementing the 14th. Amendment claimed that it would be a fair and flat tax. But within a few years of the Amendment being adopted by the States, it was then claimed that "temporarily" because of F.D.R.'s Great Depression, the "flat" tax would necessarily be "graduated" to help repair the economy.

And in over 80 years, we've NEVER repaired the economy...not fully. The government has never put us back onto a flat tax. And because of how the 14th. Amendment was instituted in the Congress, it was never a valid amendment when the States voted on it, anyway.

ABOLISH ALL INCOME TAXES AND SALES TAXES!!!!

On the federal level, we only need property taxes. And only property owners (those with a vested interest in the success of our nation) should be allowed to vote (and they must be citizens who sign a loyalty pledge to America, regardless of age, color, gender, or national origin).

If we returned to that idea (minus the age, color, gender, and origin discriminations), then the budget would be slashed and the federal government could return to it's original dictates: defense and border control, interstate and international commerce regulation, interstate and international criminal justice, foreign treaties , interstate and international communications administration, and citizenship/loyalty administration. All other powers (including welfare, education, environmental wackos (EPA-types), industrial regulations, etc.) should be returned to the States, individually.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

That makes more people get hired, and the poorer people get of welfare and get a chance to climb the ladder and do well in life..

You obviously have still not read the JC textbook for history, I would be surprised if you read it at all. In the Industrial Revolution in Britain, there was no min wage. As a result, people would be hired as cheaply as possible. So, since people were being payed so poorly since there was no min wage, they could not afford proper housing or food. People lived in slums, rivers of waste flowed through streets. Dysentery and cholera was rife. Nearly every house in inner cities were overcrowded.

All this because there was no minimum wage, so the cheapest people were hired on salaries that barely let them buy bread.

Name one country without minimum wage laws, that does not have slum areas.

Name one country with minimum wage laws that don't have slum areas. Minimum wage and lifelong welfare are not a successful part of a system of economics and they both drag economies down. In fact (per my writings above) economics on a national level should be restricted to interstate (and international) trade. ALL other economics should be in the hands of the States. Let each state choose whether they want to keep minimum wages and welfare. No state should have to spread their misery to other states because they've implemented terribly-high redistribution taxes.

Rescue-fare (temporary welfare) is a successful part of any system of economics and should be a part of each State's governmental duties. But keeping people on welfare long-term with no hope for a real solution keeps them from becoming successful and contributing members of society. And government doesn't generate jobs, only the private sector can grow an economy.

Like welfare, minimum wage laws hurt any economy they are implemented in. As I've experienced -- and many others have experienced -- minimum wage only hurts employees and consumers. Business owners can not be affected by it as they will either reduce employees and hours or raise prices. Consumers suffer and employees suffer or get laid off. When governments attempt to pass/raise minimum wage laws, they are trying to force business owners to voluntarily make themselves poor. What stupidity.

The only way a minimum wage law might not affect employees and customers would be to forcibly disallow price increases or employee layoffs/reduced hours. But then an employer can simply fire employees for "other" reasons. They can also choose to simply close and reopen their business as a new business with more-expensive prices or more-expensive services.

Or they could just close. It is not right to try to force ANYONE to make themselves less-rich for the sake of the poor. The Church will ensure that charity helps the indigent (unless the society has abandoned the Church (i.e., less than 12% of the British population attends Church services and even less profess to be born-again)). Of course, if people abandon the Church, they are less likely to be charitable. But forced economic redistribution by taxation is no charity and it never works. However, Church-led charities are usually very successful unless (as mentioned) the Church loses its membership.

Thank you, atheists, for trying to doom the poor. Because you hate faithful Christians so much, you would have society abandon God and thus abandon Christian charity...which is the core source of the vast majority of charitable contributions of the past 2000 years.

Diabolical wrote:

Thank you, atheists, for trying to doom the poor. Because you hate faithful Christians so much, you would have society abandon God and thus abandon Christian charity...which is the core source of the vast majority of charitable contributions of the past 2000 years.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Ireland.

Diabolical wrote:

ABOLISH ALL INCOME TAXES