Criticism of Artillery

This NEW thread was the appropriate place to put this "Suggestions/Criticisms".

OK, so WHY OH WHY is the artillery so weak on naval bombardment?

And, as if that were bad enough, it starts at 0.3 on Level 1 and doesn't go up with each level...not even a little bit.

And, as bad as THAT was, the lower three levels are 0.3 while the upper two levels are 0.2.

I don't like to use bad language but...WTF?!?

It should be this:

Level 1 ... 0.3

Level 2 ... 0.4

Level 3 ... 0.6

Level 4 ... 0.8

Level 5 ... 1.0

That seems like a more reasonable strength progression rather than actually getting worse.

It seemed like such a waste to destroy an entire battle station just to eliminate one man. But Charlie knew that it was the only way to ensure the absolute and total destruction of Quasi-duck, once and for all.
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Nearly all heavy metals are toxic if they enter the body, but I agree, not a chemical nor a radioactive weapon, purely kinetics.

Analogous to lead poisoning or LEAD POISONING.

Just a bit of trivia, many have estimated that more ducks die from accidently eating the lead pellets from shotgun shells and getting lead poisoning, than from actually getting shot by hunters and getting LEAD POISONING!

:D

PS So yeah, there are related health problems from war, both from the war itself and from all the aftermath before during and after cleanup. But that is quite different than saying the US uses nuclear waste as a chemical weapon. That kind of claim is just spin doctors at work playing on the public's ignorance.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

they literally, spread Nuclear waste all over the place ( well not all over the place, but within reason)

There are a huge amount of birth defects in The Balkans and Iraq, due to this

They don't. The only people that were affected by those DU rounds in Iraq were Iraqi tank crews and American crews removing wrecks, before the danger was properly known. Generally it can be stopped with a mask, it is the tiny metal shards that cause damage.

You do know that DU is used to because it has very little U-234 in it, right? It is a by-product of nuclear fission.

Anyway, that would not make it a chemical weapon anyways. There is a reason US troops are trained in CBRN, meaning Chemical, Biological, Radiation, and Nuclear.

Not true, a huge amount of hospitals have reported increases in ill ness etc due to this..

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All I wanted was to beef up the Artillery against naval units a little bit. The nitpicking over HE vs. AP and the DU, or the DUCK or whatever is getting far too technical.

It's just a game and I'd like to have my little gun thingies shoot the bad guys in the water and make them go boom.

My bathtub toys are more fun than HE artillery.

It seemed like such a waste to destroy an entire battle station just to eliminate one man. But Charlie knew that it was the only way to ensure the absolute and total destruction of Quasi-duck, once and for all.
The saying, "beating them into submission until payday", is just golden...pun intended.
R.I.P. Snickers <3

oceanhawk wrote:

Not true, a huge amount of hospitals have reported increases in ill ness etc due to this..
Sources?

Diabolical wrote:

It's just a game and I'd like to have my little gun thingies shoot the bad guys in the water and make them go boom.

My bathtub toys are more fun than HE artillery.

That is because it is HE, not AP. Look at the invasion of Singapore.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Not true, a huge amount of hospitals have reported increases in ill ness etc due to this..
Sources?

Diabolical wrote:

It's just a game and I'd like to have my little gun thingies shoot the bad guys in the water and make them go boom.

My bathtub toys are more fun than HE artillery.

That is because it is HE, not AP. Look at the invasion of Singapore.

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The problem is not with the shell then, it is with terrorist insurgents hugging civilian territory. This can be solved with evacuation.

Quasi-duck wrote:

The problem is not with the shell then, it is with terrorist insurgents hugging civilian territory. This can be solved with evacuation.
That makes no sense, what so ever..

So the terrorists, are holding a town. The Good guys attack. The use art, and the terrorists die... and harmful stuff hurts civiains afterwards.

so your saying, the bad guys and good guys should just let the civlians leave?


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oceanhawk wrote:

so your saying, the bad guys and good guys should just let the civlians leave?
Yeah.

oceanhawk wrote:

That makes no sense, what so ever..

So the terrorists, are holding a town. The Good guys attack. The use art, and the terrorists die... and harmful stuff hurts civiains afterwards.

Casualties always happen in war. Be glad they are not using Sarin nerve toxins, which can be used like mines. Except you can't see this as easy and the only thing you can do is go around it.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

so your saying, the bad guys and good guys should just let the civlians leave?
Yeah.

oceanhawk wrote:

That makes no sense, what so ever..

So the terrorists, are holding a town. The Good guys attack. The use art, and the terrorists die... and harmful stuff hurts civiains afterwards.

Casualties always happen in war. Be glad they are not using Sarin nerve toxins, which can be used like mines. Except you can't see this as easy and the only thing you can do is go around it.
The bad guys, use the civilians as human sheilds, stoops a few lancers carpet bombing that place..

Imagine what the American armed forces could do to a few terrorists if there was no worry of collateral damage


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oceanhawk wrote:

The bad guys, use the civilians as human sheilds, stoops a few lancers carpet bombing that place..

Imagine what the American armed forces could do to a few terrorists if there was no worry of collateral damage

Which is why they use what they use.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

The bad guys, use the civilians as human sheilds, stoops a few lancers carpet bombing that place..

Imagine what the American armed forces could do to a few terrorists if there was no worry of collateral damage

Which is why they use what they use.
my point is what they using is wrong, and the terroists, wont just say leave.. or exacuate

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oceanhawk wrote:

my point is what they using is wrong, and the terroists, wont just say leave.. or exacuate
Since when is killing terrorists wrong?

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

my point is what they using is wrong, and the terroists, wont just say leave.. or exacuate
Since when is killing terrorists wrong?
didnt say its wrong

why would you think its wrong?

they are bad people, and should be dealt with


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oceanhawk wrote:

didnt say its wrong

why would you think its wrong?

they are bad people, and should be dealt with

Thought you were hinting terrorists should not be killed even if they are civvie hugging.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

didnt say its wrong

why would you think its wrong?

they are bad people, and should be dealt with

Thought you were hinting terrorists should not be killed even if they are civvie hugging.
no but the effects of these depleted uranium shells are lethal, thats all im saying

anyway


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oceanhawk wrote:

no but the effects of these depleted uranium shells are lethal, thats all im saying
And? The answer is simple, avoid wrecks of burned out tanks where American troops have been. You should do this anyways.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

no but the effects of these depleted uranium shells are lethal, thats all im saying
And? The answer is simple, avoid wrecks of burned out tanks where American troops have been. You should do this anyways.
Do you not understand, that the Uranium goes up into the air, and then spreads about.

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oceanhawk wrote:

Do you not understand, that the Uranium goes up into the air, and then spreads about.
It doesn't. When a round hits the tank, it goes through, coats the inside, and catches fire, all this happens in less than a second. Therefore, the inside of the tank is coated in it, and it does not spread around.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Do you not understand, that the Uranium goes up into the air, and then spreads about.
It doesn't. When a round hits the tank, it goes through, coats the inside, and catches fire, all this happens in less than a second. Therefore, the inside of the tank is coated in it, and it does not spread around.
That is nonsense, Im afraid

The powder, frm the shell, goes up into the atmosphere, where it eventually settles, and gets injusited by the local population. And that stuff is nasty


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oceanhawk wrote:

That is nonsense, Im afraid

The powder, frm the shell, goes up into the atmosphere, where it eventually settles, and gets injusited by the local population. And that stuff is nasty

Load of bull, the only US forces operating in Iraq that complained about exposure to DU was the guys who dragged away M1 Abrams wrecked by friendly fire.

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