This NEW thread was the appropriate place to put this "Suggestions/Criticisms".
OK, so WHY OH WHY is the artillery so weak on naval bombardment?
And, as if that were bad enough, it starts at 0.3 on Level 1 and doesn't go up with each level...not even a little bit.
And, as bad as THAT was, the lower three levels are 0.3 while the upper two levels are 0.2.
I don't like to use bad language but...WTF?!?
It should be this:
Level 1 ... 0.3
Level 2 ... 0.4
Level 3 ... 0.6
Level 4 ... 0.8
Level 5 ... 1.0
That seems like a more reasonable strength progression rather than actually getting worse.
It seemed like such a waste to destroy an entire battle station just to eliminate one man. But Charlie knew that it was the only way to ensure the absolute and total destruction of Quasi-duck, once and for all.Please log in to post a reply.
Artillery needs to be buffed. There are no coastal fortresses and thus no land units can challenge a naval bombardment. Artillery are pathetic at dueling with ranged ships in the game. Why artillery (surface attack) and militia (AA defense) have reduced stats at higher level is either a typo or an oversight. Such glaring inconsistencies are easy to fix and yet just sit around along with the unfixed bug list.
oceanhawk wrote:
The bad guys, use the civilians as human sheilds, stoops a few lancers carpet bombing that place..Quasi-duck wrote:
Yeah.oceanhawk wrote:
so your saying, the bad guys and good guys should just let the civlians leave?Casualties always happen in war. Be glad they are not using Sarin nerve toxins, which can be used like mines. Except you can't see this as easy and the only thing you can do is go around it.oceanhawk wrote:
That makes no sense, what so ever..So the terrorists, are holding a town. The Good guys attack. The use art, and the terrorists die... and harmful stuff hurts civiains afterwards.
Imagine what the American armed forces could do to a few terrorists if there was no worry of collateral damage
If we -- the Americans -- were to just start carpet-bombing ISIS in their "strongholds" -- regardless of civilian casualties -- the remaining civilians in other areas would start fleeing en masse while many of the terrorists themselves would start abandoning their posts once they realize that they are next and that human shields won't work anymore.
The fact that we try very hard to avoid civilian casualties is why the terrorists there use human shields. Once we drop that policy in favor of actually winning the war, the bad guy forces will melt away at the sound of our jet engines. In other words, this long war with ISIS (Obama's War of Stupidity) would actually come to a swift and just end.
oceanhawk wrote:
That is nonsense, Im afraidThe powder, frm the shell, goes up into the atmosphere, where it eventually settles, and gets injusited by the local population. And that stuff is nastyQuasi-duck wrote:
It doesn't. When a round hits the tank, it goes through, coats the inside, and catches fire, all this happens in less than a second. Therefore, the inside of the tank is coated in it, and it does not spread around.oceanhawk wrote:
Do you not understand, that the Uranium goes up into the air, and then spreads about.
Just because a "DU" gives off radiation does not make it an NBC. The radiation given off is a non-lethal amount. Similar to riding in a jet up high in the sky. You can actually buy low-grade Uranium (uraniumrocks.com, unitednuclear.com) and you usually don't even have to have it shielded inside a lead case. It doesn't cause radiation sickness and isn't strong enough to cause significant mutations in first-generation offspring. It is the down-generation mutations that matter, but that is ignored by the world health community (as it should be since the down-generation mutations are very minor, also).oceanhawk wrote:
Does a Knife have NBC properites? no hence not a NBC weaponQuasi-duck wrote:
So were death rates from bombings in WWII. Sure, that caused people to starve to death.oceanhawk wrote:
yes but this is having huge long term effects, and horrible effects. Child defects are huge, morality rates are extremely high.No it isn't. Is a knife a fork?oceanhawk wrote:
It is really a Chemical weapon at this stage.does a Depleted Uranium shell give off Uranium?
yes, hence it could come under the classification of NBC weapon
What does part one have to do with anything?
Im saying these weapons cause child defects etc
and you are just saying random stuff now, cos of a lack of argument
More on down-generation mutations:
Down-generation mutations (due to increased solar radiation from a reduced water vapor canopy above the earth) are the principle reason for the slow degradation of the human genome since the Great Deluge. The constant decrease in human longevity over the past few thousand years (among other things) best illustrates this.
Noah's great-great-grandson, Eber, was the last recorded person to live more than about 200 years. His son, Peleg, like his great-grandfather, Shem, would see his lifespan cut in half from his father's. The trend seems to show that, since the flood, longevity of the early human genome would get cut in half on every fourth generation until it stabilized at roughly 120 years (roughly, the current absolute maximum of modern recorded history -- which also follows the Bible in Genesis 6:3 "And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.").
It seemed like such a waste to destroy an entire battle station just to eliminate one man. But Charlie knew that it was the only way to ensure the absolute and total destruction of Quasi-duck, once and for all.Actually, your Great White Bwana started all this off.Diabolical wrote:
In other words, this long war with ISIS (Obama's War of Stupidity) would actually come to a swift and just end.
Actually, this just encourages more to join the cause. Look at the history of Ireland.Diabolical wrote:
If we -- the Americans -- were to just start carpet-bombing ISIS in their "strongholds" -- regardless of civilian casualties -- the remaining civilians in other areas would start fleeing en masse while many of the terrorists themselves would start abandoning their posts once they realize that they are next and that human shields won't work anymore.
I had to like your post for thisDiabolical wrote:
Just because a "DU" gives off radiation does not make it an NBC. The radiation given off is a non-lethal amount. Similar to riding in a jet up high in the sky. You can actually buy low-grade Uranium (uraniumrocks.com, unitednuclear.com) and you usually don't even have to have it shielded inside a lead case. It doesn't cause radiation sickness and isn't strong enough to cause significant mutations in first-generation offspring. It is the down-generation mutations that matter, but that is ignored by the world health community (as it should be since the down-generation mutations are very minor, also).
BTW it is CBRN, Ocean is wrong again.I forgot to mention, the whole reason for using depleted uranium is for the weight. It is a heavy substitute for lead and there's an abundant supply left over from the nuclear plants. This is environmentalism at it's finest: recycling radioactive materials for the betterment of mankind...by killing the bad guys.Quasi-duck wrote:
Actually, your Great White Bwana started all this off.Diabolical wrote:
In other words, this long war with ISIS (Obama's War of Stupidity) would actually come to a swift and just end.Actually, this just encourages more to join the cause. Look at the history of Ireland.Diabolical wrote:
If we -- the Americans -- were to just start carpet-bombing ISIS in their "strongholds" -- regardless of civilian casualties -- the remaining civilians in other areas would start fleeing en masse while many of the terrorists themselves would start abandoning their posts once they realize that they are next and that human shields won't work anymore.I had to like your post for thisDiabolical wrote:
Just because a "DU" gives off radiation does not make it an NBC. The radiation given off is a non-lethal amount. Similar to riding in a jet up high in the sky. You can actually buy low-grade Uranium (uraniumrocks.com, unitednuclear.com) and you usually don't even have to have it shielded inside a lead case. It doesn't cause radiation sickness and isn't strong enough to cause significant mutations in first-generation offspring. It is the down-generation mutations that matter, but that is ignored by the world health community (as it should be since the down-generation mutations are very minor, also).
It seemed like such a waste to destroy an entire battle station just to eliminate one man. But Charlie knew that it was the only way to ensure the absolute and total destruction of Quasi-duck, once and for all.Lol, it is not it's weight, it is it's density. Very hard.Diabolical wrote:
I forgot to mention, the whole reason for using depleted uranium is for the weight. It is a heavy substitute for lead and there's an abundant supply left over from the nuclear plants. This is environmentalism at it's finest: recycling radioactive materials for the betterment of mankind...by killing the bad guys.
The Point here, I was trying to make, is that the Terrorists, at the town will use the civilians are Human Shields, and prevent them from leaving.Diabolical wrote:
If we -- the Americans -- were to just start carpet-bombing ISIS in their "strongholds" -- regardless of civilian casualties -- the remaining civilians in other areas would start fleeing en masse while many of the terrorists themselves would start abandoning their posts once they realize that they are next and that human shields won't work anymore.oceanhawk wrote:
The bad guys, use the civilians as human sheilds, stoops a few lancers carpet bombing that place..Imagine what the American armed forces could do to a few terrorists if there was no worry of collateral damageQuasi-duck wrote:
Yeah.oceanhawk wrote:
so your saying, the bad guys and good guys should just let the civlians leave?Casualties always happen in war. Be glad they are not using Sarin nerve toxins, which can be used like mines. Except you can't see this as easy and the only thing you can do is go around it.oceanhawk wrote:
That makes no sense, what so ever..So the terrorists, are holding a town. The Good guys attack. The use art, and the terrorists die... and harmful stuff hurts civiains afterwards.
The fact that we try very hard to avoid civilian casualties is why the terrorists there use human shields. Once we drop that policy in favor of actually winning the war, the bad guy forces will melt away at the sound of our jet engines. In other words, this long war with ISIS (Obama's War of Stupidity) would actually come to a swift and just end.
oceanhawk wrote:
That is nonsense, Im afraidThe powder, frm the shell, goes up into the atmosphere, where it eventually settles, and gets injusited by the local population. And that stuff is nastyQuasi-duck wrote:
It doesn't. When a round hits the tank, it goes through, coats the inside, and catches fire, all this happens in less than a second. Therefore, the inside of the tank is coated in it, and it does not spread around.oceanhawk wrote:
Do you not understand, that the Uranium goes up into the air, and then spreads about.Just because a "DU" gives off radiation does not make it an NBC. The radiation given off is a non-lethal amount. Similar to riding in a jet up high in the sky. You can actually buy low-grade Uranium (uraniumrocks.com, unitednuclear.com) and you usually don't even have to have it shielded inside a lead case. It doesn't cause radiation sickness and isn't strong enough to cause significant mutations in first-generation offspring. It is the down-generation mutations that matter, but that is ignored by the world health community (as it should be since the down-generation mutations are very minor, also).oceanhawk wrote:
Does a Knife have NBC properites? no hence not a NBC weapondoes a Depleted Uranium shell give off Uranium?Quasi-duck wrote:
So were death rates from bombings in WWII. Sure, that caused people to starve to death.oceanhawk wrote:
yes but this is having huge long term effects, and horrible effects. Child defects are huge, morality rates are extremely high.No it isn't. Is a knife a fork?oceanhawk wrote:
It is really a Chemical weapon at this stage.yes, hence it could come under the classification of NBC weapon
What does part one have to do with anything?
Im saying these weapons cause child defects etc
and you are just saying random stuff now, cos of a lack of argument
More on down-generation mutations:
Spoiler
Down-generation mutations (due to increased solar radiation from a reduced water vapor canopy above the earth) are the principle reason for the slow degradation of the human genome since the Great Deluge. The constant decrease in human longevity over the past few thousand years (among other things) best illustrates this.
Noah's great-great-grandson, Eber, was the last recorded person to live more than about 200 years. His son, Peleg, like his great-grandfather, Shem, would see his lifespan cut in half from his father's. The trend seems to show that, since the flood, longevity of the early human genome would get cut in half on every fourth generation until it stabilized at roughly 120 years (roughly, the current absolute maximum of modern recorded history -- which also follows the Bible in Genesis 6:3 "And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.").
Subject: Criticism of Artillery
I don't know if anyone noticed what I had hidden underneath the Spoiiler, but I just noticed something when looking at this. Actually, if you go by the chart of recorded history of the patriarchs since the flood, Abraham was outlived by his great-great-great-great grandfather, Eber, by four years.
It seemed like such a waste to destroy an entire battle station just to eliminate one man. But Charlie knew that it was the only way to ensure the absolute and total destruction of Quasi-duck, once and for all.What is this junk? What does it have to do with Artillery?Diabolical wrote:
I don't know if anyone noticed what I had hidden underneath the Spoiiler, but I just noticed something when looking at this. Actually, if you go by the chart of recorded history of the patriarchs since the flood, Abraham was outlived by his great-great-great-great grandfather, Eber, by four years.Spoiler
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you knew ... I was going OToceanhawk wrote:
What is this junk? What does it have to do with Artillery?Diabolical wrote:
I don't know if anyone noticed what I had hidden underneath the Spoiiler, but I just noticed something when looking at this. Actually, if you go by the chart of recorded history of the patriarchs since the flood, Abraham was outlived by his great-great-great-great grandfather, Eber, by four years.Spoiler
... as in OLD TESTAMENT!!! 
It seemed like such a waste to destroy an entire battle station just to eliminate one man. But Charlie knew that it was the only way to ensure the absolute and total destruction of Quasi-duck, once and for all.Are we supposed to laugh?Diabolical wrote:
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you knew ... I was going OT... as in OLD TESTAMENT!!!
Probably. I didn't know he was Jewish.Pablo22510 wrote:
Are we supposed to laugh?Diabolical wrote:
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you knew ... I was going OT... as in OLD TESTAMENT!!!
I didn't know he was Muslim. Btw, @Diabolical, this is from the Old Testament. Not word by word, but more or less.Quasi-duck wrote:
Probably. I didn't know he was Jewish.Pablo22510 wrote:
Are we supposed to laugh?Diabolical wrote:
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you knew ... I was going OT... as in OLD TESTAMENT!!!
Some guy actually said in the Old Testament that if you have more than others, you've stolen from them. Do you really believe that? Because it comes from the book that is the origin of modern Christianity.
Oh yeah, so Diabolical must be a commie! Welcome to the club bro!Pablo22510 wrote:
Some guy actually said in the Old Testament that if you have more than others, you've stolen from them. Do you really believe that? Because it comes from the book that is the origin of modern Christianity.
Ikr! Someone oughta read the Old Testament...Quasi-duck wrote:
Oh yeah, so Diabolical must be a commie! Welcome to the club bro!Pablo22510 wrote:
Some guy actually said in the Old Testament that if you have more than others, you've stolen from them. Do you really believe that? Because it comes from the book that is the origin of modern Christianity.
Or the new one, Jesus was a total commie.Pablo22510 wrote:
Ikr! Someone oughta read the Old Testament...
Pablo22510 wrote:
I didn't know he was Muslim. Btw, @Diabolical, this is from the Old Testament. Not word by word, but more or less.Quasi-duck wrote:
Probably. I didn't know he was Jewish.Pablo22510 wrote:
Are we supposed to laugh?Diabolical wrote:
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you knew ... I was going OT... as in OLD TESTAMENT!!!
Some guy actually said in the Old Testament that if you have more than others, you've stolen from them. Do you really believe that? Because it comes from the book that is the origin of modern Christianity.
You ask a question about a dubious-sounding principle based on a poorly-constructed memory of a poorly-quoted verse that you can't fully remember from "some guy" somewhere in the Old Testament and you actually expect me to answer to that?
Ironically, not knowing the original verse nor the original context, I can at least answer the question in general. But my answer is based on the guts of what you actually wrote. And what you wrote is likely not accurate Biblically in words and especially not in meaning.
But, to say that having more than others is stealing from them is a ridiculous communistic-sounding principle of Marxism. It is an attempted form of defense for violating "Thou shalt not covet...any thing that is thy neighbor's" (Exodus 20:17).
Coveting is jealousy for what you do not have. God added this very important law at the end of the Ten Commandments because coveting leads to action -- the action of theft, which is a violation of the eight commandment ("Thou shalt not steal." Ex. 20:15).
Coveting also can lead to violating the ninth commandment ("Thous shalt not bear false witness [lying] against thy neighbor." Ex. 20:16) because when one covets something, they may try to lie about how the other person acquired it and then try to get it from them by "legally" appropriating it. In other words, "redistribute" their wealth...which is theft.
A person that covets their neighbor's wife might even violate the seventh commandment ("Thous shalt not commit adultery." Ex. 20:14) because of his lust for her. Then, if his lust and covetousness leads to adultery and theft of his neighbor's marriage sanctity, then the other man might seek revenge and violate the sixth commandment ("Thou shalt not kill." Ex. 20:13) in his anger by killing the covetous man.
This is a big mess! And it all could have been avoided had the first man not coveted that which did not belong to him. You can see how one violation of the Ten Commandments lower on the list can lead to a violation of a higher commandment. So, the evils of wealth distribution can (and often does) lead to greater problems for individuals and for society as a whole.
Think about this: ever since the establishment of the so-called "great society" by F.D.R., jealousy among the classes in America has risen to insurmountable heights and polarized the populace and politics such that we -- as a people -- can rarely come together on any issue of real importance. There is so much division of "left" vs. "right" that we are a broken people and these united states are not very much a "United States". We are clearly not a "great society".
All that aside, I will tell you that Christ did command the Church to share the wealth, so to speak. But not via taxation and certainly not at gunpoint (the method of Communism). We Christians are commanded to care for each other the same as one would his immediate family members. That is because the Church IS a family. We are a part of the family of God...adopted into the House of Israel through Jesus by His blood sacrifice for all peoples.
In addition, not only are Christians suppose to help each other -- as is right in any family -- but we are supposed to help others too. That is a ministry to the outside to show the generosity of God through the generosity of His people. It is a form of witness. But, again, that is nothing like communism. It is sharing -- willingly -- by giving out of love, not by threat of imprisonment by a heartless and soulless government entity. This is one area where the Church is paramount over and above the government.
Wealth redistribution is a horrible proto-socialistic principle conceived by others, loosely practiced by many varying nations throughout all of human history, and recently popularized (again) by Karl Marx -- a man who wanted credit for re-inventing the square wheel (note the irony and sarcasm...I have nothing but contempt for that very lazy "thinker").
Quasi-duck wrote:
Or the new one, Jesus was a total commie.Pablo22510 wrote:
Ikr! Someone oughta read the Old Testament...
I did read the Old Testament and the New Testament. I've read the Bible many times with special focus on history, prophecy, and the Gospel and have a wealth of knowledge that I willingly and happily share with others. I am a critically-thinking apologist for the faith and I use that tool of logic as part of my witness of the Gospel of Christ to others. Though not a professional, I am an expert of the Bible and the Christian faith as well as a member of the family of God which gives me particular insight into the heart of the Word of God.
I keep trying to convey this: that Christians are a family with each other and with God. We are not all full of the same amount of wisdom and knowledge. But each is equally important. As a family, we love each other like brothers and sisters. If you are not a Christian, but want to understand us better, just think about your own love for your family members. You love your parents and siblings and children. When one does you wrong, you still love them. When one does great, you celebrate with them. When one fails at something, you share in their sorrow. When one passes away, you mourn for them, though expect not to see them again.
Everything about that is magnified within the Church, except for one thing. We do not mourn the dead within our Christian family -- like others do -- because we have the security of knowledge and expectation that they will be resurrected and we will be reunited with them. So we have hope. And that same hope belongs to anyone who accepts the free gift of salvation by Jesus Christ.
My family -- the family of God -- has lots of room for more people. Wanna join my family? It's got lots of perks and you will be loved and become beloved by all of us and by our God. Actually, God already loves you, that's why He wants you to join our family.
So, repent and be saved!
It seemed like such a waste to destroy an entire battle station just to eliminate one man. But Charlie knew that it was the only way to ensure the absolute and total destruction of Quasi-duck, once and for all.Bro, stop going off-topic. It is against the rules.
Arty should get a little attack buff.
Ahem, I started this thread and I am not off topic so much as responding to someone else. That being said, the rules of topics should not be very rigid in a thread started by non-staff members.
And I don't think you read the post or else you wouldn't have been able to reply as quickly as you did. So for all you know, I did stay on topic -- or did I???
It seemed like such a waste to destroy an entire battle station just to eliminate one man. But Charlie knew that it was the only way to ensure the absolute and total destruction of Quasi-duck, once and for all.That is for the staff to decide. Nattering about Gawd is not staying on topic.Diabolical wrote:
Ahem, I started this thread and I am not off topic so much as responding to someone else. That being said, the rules of topics should not be very rigid in a thread started by non-staff members.And I don't think you read the post or else you wouldn't have been able to reply as quickly as you did. So for all you know, I did stay on topic -- or did I???
What do you think of arty getting a buff?
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