Would anyone else be at all likely to use a function where you can destroy your own buildings?
I'm currently executing a cowardly flight strategic withdrawal from my core provinces which are being invaded on all fronts and moving to an overseas colony, to prepare for a recapture mission later in the game (except realistically I expect someone else will finish me off before I get a chance to do that), and in doing that I've been cancelling a lot of projects I don't want captured, but I also have a number of finished facilities I don't want falling into enemy hands. Being able to destroy them (without using friendly fire weapons, none of which I have or can produce at short notice) would come in useful.
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14 Apr 2023, 12:49
This would be horrible, not only would this be used too much, someone would just wipe their whole country and then the point of capturing their cities to get production would be ruined.
Maybe they should allow you to destroy Infastructure but nothing else.
14 Apr 2023, 12:54
I get why we might want that but I tend to agree with Fox. Capturing pre-built production buildings helps keep front-line unit production possible. Otherwise expanding players would be forced to continue producing units in their cores or would have to pour resources into building production buildings near the front line, which would take daaaays at the low morale of newly-captured cities, slowing down everything.
14 Apr 2023, 12:56
Fair enough.
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14 Apr 2023, 14:14
lord Crayfish and Aragosta, same game, doing the same thing.
The President
14 Apr 2023, 14:31
Yep. I don't know what Lord Crayfish thinks he's doing, though, seeing as his convoys seem to be going to a random spot in the Pacific ocean.
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14 Apr 2023, 16:02
It's not realistic to build front line units in recently captured cities. To me this detracts from the war-like feel and it makes the game easier in a way I don't enjoy. I liked the 1.0 mechanics of requiring intact industry and infrastructure to produce advanced units. This encourages players to make more strategic decisions about what to attack, when to attack, how to set up their production lines, how to defend strategic production centers, when to pay for rebuilding captured production centers. Right now these aspects of the game are too simplistic, and it gets boring.
14 Apr 2023, 16:06
I agree with the OP's request, but I believe that players should not be able to instantly destroy their buildings; instead, it would take time (maybe about 25% of the building time) and buildings with multiple levels would have to be "destroyed" multiple times.
āA battle fought without determination is a battle lost.ā - Josip Broz Tito
14 Apr 2023, 16:17
Agreed, and it should require some effort (from an army unit) or cost (in money, food, goods) like building new roads or fortifications.
14 Apr 2023, 22:48
It feels like a petty revenge against a competent player who beat you. Whenever these threads come up, its alwyas about "not wanting your stuff falling into enemy hands". Yet the joy of capturing some fine stuff never gets mentioned.
14 Apr 2023, 22:59
Lady Aragosta wrote:
Being able to destroy them (without using friendly fire weapons, none of which I have or can produce at short notice) would come in useful.
Yeah you kind of can if you want by backing away slowly, using fighting in the cities with artillery support and capturing back-and-forth, with stealth units. This should also break the attacker's elan and blunt their edge, giving more time to retreat to a position of strength.
I assume the automatic massive damage to buildings upon a province being captured is the work of saboteurs anyway.
Aeroplanes are interesting toys but of no military value. ā Marshal Foch A pretty mechanical toy [...] the war will never be won by such machines. ā Lord Kitchener, on tanks
15 Apr 2023, 08:22
OK, I get the general idea:
Just like everyone else, I sometimes get bad ideas. This was one of them, and I probably should have thought it through a bit more before posting, because most of the problems pointed out are ones I could have arrived at for myself.
Thanks to everyone who helped me see this.
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15 Apr 2023, 09:31
Yeah some of us (I at least) are resistant to change. It's not because the ideas aren't good, but that the current game ain't broke.
Aeroplanes are interesting toys but of no military value. ā Marshal Foch A pretty mechanical toy [...] the war will never be won by such machines. ā Lord Kitchener, on tanks
15 Apr 2023, 09:35
Lord Crayfish wrote:
Yeah some of us (I at least) are resistant to change. It's not because the ideas aren't good, but that the current game ain't broke.
I'm usually the same. And in this case it really was a bad idea.
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15 Apr 2023, 09:38
i will avenge you both in that game
The President
15 Apr 2023, 09:41
Claudio NVKP wrote:
i will avenge you both in that game
I'm on the way to avenging myself, fortunately. You can help by donating resources, particularly food.
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15 Apr 2023, 10:01
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15 Apr 2023, 10:02
Lady Aragosta wrote:
Claudio NVKP wrote:
i will avenge you both in that game
I'm on the way to avenging myself, fortunately. You can help by donating resources, particularly food.
Great news for you, i have extra food, hahaha
The President
15 Apr 2023, 11:00
Claudio NVKP wrote:
i will avenge you both in that game
Don't you bother with avenging me, I voluntarily surrendered to him and moved all my troops out. He's cool with me but if you like you can.
Aeroplanes are interesting toys but of no military value. ā Marshal Foch A pretty mechanical toy [...] the war will never be won by such machines. ā Lord Kitchener, on tanks
15 Apr 2023, 11:09
Lord Crayfish wrote:
Claudio NVKP wrote:
i will avenge you both in that game
Don't you bother with avenging me, I voluntarily surrendered to him and moved all my troops out. He's cool with me but if you like you can.
Its better to try.
The President
15 Apr 2023, 14:34
Its not really a bad idea, has a historical basis. If it was to be implemented (not gonna happen) I wouldn't make it instantaneous[/i] but have a count down associated with it that stops if captured.