Destroyers should have a land unit attack value

If that were to happen, Cruisers and BB would never be used :X

A small attack value would not negate the effectiveness of cruisers and battleships. Just as in World War II, when destroyers were used to provide point blank support, cruisers and battleships were also used since they were more effective. In no way did the use of destroyers negate the usefulness of cruisers and battleships in the actual conflict and providing them with a small attack value in the game would also in no way negate the usefulness of having cruisers and battleships on hand.

I like the idea of this.

I agree. They should have some on-shore bombard value.

There are already other marine units that perform this.

Regardless, it doesn't reflect the historical role the destroyer played in the actual conflict. They were often used for shore bombardment.

StrangeTalent wrote:

If that were to happen, Cruisers and BB would never be used :X

The game needs many refinements!

This is one of them!

StrangeTalent wrote:

If that were to happen, Cruisers and BB would never be used :X

Yes, but at a cost/effective standpoint, it'd be easier and better on resources to spam DD. I'm sure making 5 DD is much faster than leveling a NB to level 3 , researching, and creating a BB

Well, depends, is it better to build a load of Militia, or infantry? I mean, yeah, militia are weaker and slower but you only need a barracks, so win-win, right?

Ok, let's run the numbers. Suppose we give destroyers the same land/infrastructure attack value as an AA gun (2). This is not a stretch since most destroyers guns were 5" and the most well known AA gun was the German 88mm.

Here is what would happen if you tried to spam destroyers. To have the firepower equivalent to a BB you would need 22 destroyers. As you can see below for the cost of 22 destroyers you could have a BB at roughly a sixth of the cost of trying to spam destroyers. Coupled with this the need for suitable production facilities to spam that many destroyers it becomes nearly impossible from a logistics perspective to do so. When one also considers the attack range difference there is really no reason to spam destroyers as it is is a waste of resources in comparison. Not only would it take vastly more time to produce 22 destroyers, there is no economic or military reason to warrant it.

........Goods Manpower...Metal....Oil....Rare_Materials...Money...Land/Infrastructure_Attack_Value...Attack-Range

DD - 1000......250.......1750....300............0............3000....................(.2)...........................20km

BB - 4000......600........4000...1250...........0............8000...................(4.4)...........................50km

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22DD - 22000..5500......38500..6600...........0............66000..................(4.4)...........................20km

Bump.

I strongly agree with this suggestion.

Reason:

The lvl1 Destroyer on the German tech tree has five 127 mm cannons. With a max range of 17.5 kilometers.

Why Destroyers don't have a land based attack, is beyond me.

In fact, the destroyers " Zerstörer 1934 "

"have a larger caliber cannon than Artillery or lvl1 Howitzers "7.7 cm FK 16" or 77mm and yet

the artillery land based unit attack is larger.

I dont understand why Destroyers, that should have auxiliary shore bombardment as feature, have ZERO ground attack value.

Please add attack value to destroyers. If they are abusable, then tweak the prices.

For some reason destroyers can damage and destroy rockets while these are on the ground, and rockets on the ground have the infantry class.