An overview of my thoughts on balancing, mainly for @freezy because it must be very hard for him to gather ideas on that from so many scattered threads:
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27 Apr 2019, 11:49
The problem is that the first victim of the new technologies had been the tactical bombers, who were extinct very soon after WWII (see Wikipedia on that). One of the prime uses of rockets, quite soon, was as AA weapons - already in the early 70's that was fully functional, while nuclear weapons were never into use. Yet, here we have nukes but we dont have anything that can target planes on patrol.
Our focus should be gameplay: whoever doesnt understand that it is one-dimensional due to the continuous advance of planes, in rates unmatched by anything else, by their speed, by the fact they practically cannot be attacked by anything (planes are the ones who decide when they do battle), and various other glitches, is turning a blind eye in the problem. The so-called "nerfing" of planes, which was insufficient and poor, did solve nothing at all in my humble view.
27 Apr 2019, 12:22
atreas1 wrote:
The problem is that the first victim of the new technologies had been the tactical bombers, who were extinct very soon after WWII (see Wikipedia on that). One of the prime uses of rockets, quite soon, was as AA weapons - already in the early 70's that was fully functional, while nuclear weapons were never into use. Yet, here we have nukes but we dont have anything that can target planes on patrol.
Our focus should be gameplay: whoever doesnt understand that it is one-dimensional due to the continuous advance of planes, in rates unmatched by anything else, by their speed, by the fact they practically cannot be attacked by anything (planes are the ones who decide when they do battle), and various other glitches, is turning a blind eye in the problem. The so-called "nerfing" of planes, which was insufficient and poor, did solve nothing at all in my humble view.
AA attack planes on patrol when you are at war, so what's the problem? If you would have a rocket that takes out a stack of planes than planes in this game would be basically useless.
AA attack planes on patrol when you are at war, so what's the problem? If you would have a rocket that takes out a stack of planes than planes in this game would be basically useless.
You obviously are missing something about how the air battles are conducted. No, AA will not attack anything because the player with the planes will nudge them in the last moment, to avoid the AA and simply patrol over his units.
The other side's planes are equally helpless, because it will be a suicide to attack patroling planes.
27 Apr 2019, 12:44
atreas1 wrote:
BMfox wrote:
atreas1 wrote:
AA attack planes on patrol when you are at war, so what's the problem? If you would have a rocket that takes out a stack of planes than planes in this game would be basically useless.
You obviously are missing something about how the air battles are conducted. No, AA will not attack anything because the player with the planes will nudge them in the last moment, to avoid the AA and simply patrol over his units.
The other side's planes are equally helpless, because it will be a suicide to attack patroling planes.
If the player is online! The other sides planes aren't helpless, you don't attack patrolling planes obviously because you would get double damage but you can patrol in the same circle.
Ok, now that we agreed that we cannot attack planes unless the other player wishes to, we can also agree there is no other unit that can avoid battle indefinitely, while at the same time performing important defensive duties. Which is exactly the reason planes have an unfair advantage.
27 Apr 2019, 13:32
You know? Actually the infantry thing is unnecessary because you should focus more on amor class. The rest are pretty good though. I also do not think you need to research transport ships.
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27 Apr 2019, 13:38
patriota75 wrote:
I think that man power should be reduced for militia and infantry not food. I do not make them because of high man power, latter you do not need them so they are hardly used. They look cheap to make, but they are not. I make four at start of game and that is all. When I research tanks and arty I make it. Latter in game you do not need infantry.
That is true because it is not needed at the end but manpower is used up easily in the beginning. Also the rare materials should also be decreased during the research period in the beginning of war. At that time, research is really quick and we do that at tremendous speed. Rare materials fly away within 2 days, After that they turn out to be a heap of waste. I think we should increase rare material production rate at the beginning and decrease it as the game moves on.
Criticism is the key to being proud but empathy is the key to being successful. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. Robert Frost Ask not what your countrycan do for you, ask what you can do for your country. John F Kennedy Time is beyond our control, and the clock keeps ticking regardless of how we lead our lives. Priority management is the answer to maximizing the time we have. John C. Maxwell
27 Apr 2019, 13:40
RYANWEN wrote:
patriota75 wrote:
I think that man power should be reduced for militia and infantry not food. I do not make them because of high man power, latter you do not need them so they are hardly used. They look cheap to make, but they are not. I make four at start of game and that is all. When I research tanks and arty I make it. Latter in game you do not need infantry.
That is true because it is not needed at the end but manpower is used up easily in the beginning. Also the rare materials should also be decreased during the research period in the beginning of war. At that time, research is really quick and we do that at tremendous speed. Rare materials fly away within 2 days, After that they turn out to be a heap of waste. I think we should increase rare material production rate at the beginning and decrease it as the game moves on.
When you attack a player in the early phase of the game you won't have manpower problems.
I think that man power should be reduced for militia and infantry not food. I do not make them because of high man power, latter you do not need them so they are hardly used. They look cheap to make, but they are not. I make four at start of game and that is all. When I research tanks and arty I make it. Latter in game you do not need infantry.
That is true because it is not needed at the end but manpower is used up easily in the beginning. Also the rare materials should also be decreased during the research period in the beginning of war. At that time, research is really quick and we do that at tremendous speed. Rare materials fly away within 2 days, After that they turn out to be a heap of waste. I think we should increase rare material production rate at the beginning and decrease it as the game moves on.
When you attack a player in the early phase of the game you won't have manpower problems.
Actually, if you produce a lot it will. It only occurs when you only produce infantries. That happens to people that are not experienced. Sometimes experienced player forget the time they had that problem
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27 Apr 2019, 13:55
True, but so don't produce infantry in the start of the game you already have enough of them. Produces AT first to protect you against armed cars, then go for artillery and tanks.
True, but so don't produce infantry in the start of the game you already have enough of them. Produces AT first to protect you against armed cars, then go for artillery and tanks.
Why don't you say that in the tutorial of the game to help new players? That will benefit them.
Criticism is the key to being proud but empathy is the key to being successful. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. Robert Frost Ask not what your countrycan do for you, ask what you can do for your country. John F Kennedy Time is beyond our control, and the clock keeps ticking regardless of how we lead our lives. Priority management is the answer to maximizing the time we have. John C. Maxwell
27 Apr 2019, 14:10
Unfortunately, a few Tutorials propose to build infantry at the start - a very dangerous advice.
Still, if you happen to be engaged in a critical fight at around Day 6-8, there is no way not to encounter manpower issues. This is of course very map-dependent, with the smaller maps being more probable for such an event.
27 Apr 2019, 14:16
Hello, I know but why don't we just make a better tutorial for the future?
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