French research tree.

nemuritor98_ wrote:

Make it sticky too as the others. (?)

any french rockets?

nemuritor98_ wrote:

any french rockets?

SSBS S2 - Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile, 1971

M1 MSBS - Submarine-launched ballistic missile, 1971

M2 MSBS - Submarine-launched ballistic missile, 1974

Pluton - Short-range ballistic missile, 1974

M20 - Submarine-launched ballistic missile, 1977

SSBS S3 - Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile, 1980 (I know, it's too recent)

Since Dave isn't active and the tree still needs to be finished, I think I shall copy it and add what is needed.

First of all, I'm grateful for the research that everyone did. However, there are some contradictions :

Some units would fit better in other categories or are badly chosen in my opinion, such as :

The Laffly W15TCC as an armoured car lvl4 This is actually just a truck with a 47 mm SA37 anti-tank gun rear mounted, so in my opinion (not an expert in this domain but very interested by History) the W15TCC would be better as a Tank Destroyer level 1, as the letters CC in the name means Tank Destroyer in French or Chasseur de Chars.

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The anti-air level 2 ...

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Do you really want to trade this DCA gun for a machine gun ? Next unit *checks his report*

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The Interceptor level 2 choice is a Caudron C-714, according to Wikipedia, this crate has been introduced in 1940, until now everything is correct but when you see what was chosen for the interceptor level 3 ...

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According to Wikipedia, this plane has been introduced for the first time in 1938 so that's 2 years earlier than the previous one in your tech tree, don't you think guys there is a little chronological problem ?

Yeah I know, it's bad to criticize when you did nothing but I wanted to draw attention on some little details. I hope to be free in the next days to give you a hand for this promising tech tree.

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I have some suggestions about the naval bombers:

Liv. 1 Levasseur PL.7 - A torpedo bomber still in service at the outbreak of the WW2. First flight: August 1928

Liv. 2 Lioré et Olivier LeO H-257 - Torpedo bomber seaplane. First flight: 1936

Liv. 3 Latécoère 298 - Torpedo-bomber seaplane. First flight: May 1936.

Liv. 4 Levasseur PL.107 - As i far as I can see, a it's torpedo bomber version of the Levasseur PL.10. First flight: November 1937 https://www.aviafrance.com/levasseur-pl-107-aviation-france-9446.htm

Liv. 5 Loire-Nieuport LN.401 - I remember finding this one while searching for italian naval bombers (apparently some units were used as naval bombers by the italians as a prize of war). First flight: July 1938.

Liv. 6 SNCAO CAO.600 - Torpedo bomber/Reconnaissance aircraft. First flight: March 1940.

Since Dave is inactive, I will be making a new thread, based on his, but I'll add your suggestions, @Marat666 and @MrBigToad. I'll mention you in the thread, Mr Big Toad, so that you're notified when it is created. I do this because I want you to sticky it, please.

Pablo22510 wrote:

I do this because I want you to sticky.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

I do this because I want you to sticky.

please*

For the tanks, you could add French prototypes, France was occupied in 1940, but in Call Of War we can win when playing as France, so maybe they could have created those tanks :^)

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a821/xib4us3isqf0xx6fg.jpg?size_id=d

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/2f/c9d36be99d7826b6a20bbdf1beff7a3d9f59b0/arbrefrancais2wip3.png

These are tanks and planes you can use ;^)

comrade dave wrote:

*Blushes* I used my knowledge of how once France was defeated in 1940 the free-french forces were given U.S equipment and tanks etc. I did use wikipedia which believe it or not is actually incredibly useful.

love it. awesome job. here are some changes and ideas for the vacant spots: first changes. i think the Renault FT should be replaced by the AMR 35. (machine gun like the panzer 1 and at least interwar) and S35 should be replaced by the FCM 36.

37L replace with (Renault SK?)

m8 greyhound replace with Panhard 178B.

also, M3 Lee should be the Renault D2. lvl 3 can be a sherman revalorise, maybe the M4 SA50 or a M4 FL-10?

sopwith should be a Nieuport 17

i notice that all the SPGs in the list are american. heres some ideas:

lvl 1 - ? (can't be the M7 , thats a tank destroyer)

lvl 3 - Lorraine 155mm SPG 1950

probably too modern tho so idk

additions for vacant spots:

the Canon de 194 mle GPF. not sure which lvl

Obusier de 155 mm Modèle 50 - top level

the Canon CA 90 Modèle 1939 anti air gun, also not sure which lvl

AMX-13 DCA can be the final tier french SPAA, tier before can be the AMX DCA Canon de 40?

thanks!

I don't know if you still accept ideas but here are a few:

armored cars:

1.white am armored car.

2.amc scheneider p16

3.gendron somua amr 39

4.panhard 178

5.panhard ebr

light tanks:

1.amr33

2.amr35

3.fcm36

4.hotchkissH35/renault r35

5.amx13

medium tanks(some are light tanks in fact but i put the ones with more mass and firepower

1.char d1

2.amc35

3.somua s35/char d2

4.batignolles-chantillon char 25t

5.lorraine 40t

6.AMX-30

heavy tanks:

1.char b1 bis

2.fcm f1

3.arl44

4.amx 50

Tank destroyer:

1.amr35 zt3

2.laffly w15

3.chasseur d tank Lorraine 37

4.conus gun

5.amx chasseur d char

6.cannon d assaut lorraine 100mm

self propeled artillery

1.canon de 194 mle

2.amx mk 61

3.Mk 61 105 mm Self-Propelled Howitzer

4.lorraine 155mm

5.Batignolles-chantillon 155mm

self propelled anti-air

1.autocanon de 75mm antiaerien mle

2.citroen-kegresse p4t

3.Berliet vph

4.GMC Bofors

5.AMX 13 DCA

With the addition of doctrines the french doctrine could be a defensive one to refer to the maginot line mentality:

Bonus on constructing fortifications

Extra Home defensive bonus

Weakness: the french lose the battle of France because they didnt see the germans coming from the ardennes

This could be convert in the game in a lack of vision of french troops

seriously ? so that's what the game needs ? the date of the techs ? so now the problems of the game are solved ? no man this is not useful this is suggestions and you put images and dates ? that's it ? go and check my thread improve the game !!!! give me replies and likes so the game can see it and improve the game .

Everyone is entitled to their own ideas. Please respect that. This is a thread for a French tech tree, instead of using the Allied one. This thread is also pretty old.

The dude also brought up a dead thread just to say the idea sucks lmao. 200 IQ xD

Correct me if I'm blind but I didn't see aircraft carriers. We could use the Avenger-class, Bearn, Joffre, Independence-class, Colossus-class, and the Clemenceau-class.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_of_France

On a side note, I don't think the M3 Stuart should be the epitome of the French Light tanks, when its near the bottom of the American one lol. We could use the AMX-13 and move the M3 down. We could also use the British Crusader as the French used that tank as well.

A French Heavy tank could also be the American Jumbo (M4A3E2).

Also, perhaps use the AML-90 as an armored car?

SPAA could be P.7.T AA, CCKW 353 AA, and the AMX-13 DCA 40.

(Some of you may notice that I am taking some of these from a different game. . . but shhh lol)

Also just noticed this thread died a year ago but already posted the reply. I'm new to forums as I rarely use any but oh well.

The French Resistance played a significant role regarding sabotage and espionage.

The railway unions were very active moving people and making deliberate mistakes regarding delivery of supplies.

Often cargoes of war supplies were sent to completely different regions of France.

Perhaps somethng to attach to apsects of infrastructure?