I recently won a game and received what was meant to be a very nice congratulations message. However it did not make me feel good. 
Why?
Because throughout the message it assumed I was male.
In my view these messages should either be gender neutral or there should be a male and a female version of the message. To assume that anyone winning a game is male I find a bit insulting. I realise this was not the intention.
Thank you.Taikhos wrote:
A promise is a debt, now I can talk in the name of Bytro.
It's not the way I would have done it, but I am sure that simply changing the text of the existing form messages is the simplest and fastest way to address the issue, and will do so in a way about which no-one can complain.
Thank you for letting me know and thank you to all who supported my request and also to those who were understanding even if they didn't agree.
But calling me a troll, really? Why would you do that? I find that kind of behaviour highly unpleasant. I made a simple request to be congratulated as a woman rather than as a man. The message was to me not to some real life male general, that is the way I saw it. No matter how real you try to make the game there was never ever a General busylizzy in ww2 male or female.
I am going to start playing again, I had a sulk because of the bad comments of some players in this forum.
To say I am a lone troll is really cruel, I do know other girls who have played and left because of the blokey attitude of the game in general. They did not have the confidence to speak up. I plucked up the courage and some of you have ridiculed me and tried to shoot me down in flames. If i believed congratulating me as male was to keep the game realistic, then I would have just gone with it. However I don't think that was the case, I think the male gender was used because it was not expected a female would ever receive the message. Well I have received more than once and I wanted to point out that girls were receiving messages aimed at men. Mother and baby groups are now called parent and baby to encourage fathers to attend, they are still a minority, but they are respected. It isn't trolling. It is simply requesting respect and an acknowledgement that you exist.
Btw I am not a feminist, but I am not a man either so don't treat me like one.
I will let for another day if we could consider you a feminist or not, It's not the point of this.
About "been a troll" and so, it is against the Terms of Use such kind of public accusation (when made seriously, we all know how to make jokes, I hope), so feel free to report it if you are ofended by it. The English Support team will be pleased to attend it, punish/warn the true trols, and try to make your game and experience more pleasant. At least that's our work, not to discuss if you are a feminist, or if you were right, or anything... just to try and make everyhing more easy and comfortable.
cough coughLizzy wrote:
But calling me a troll, really? Why would you do that? I find that kind of behaviour highly unpleasant
fighting in a world war isn't a pleasant thing either
cough cough
I feel like if this was in an older game, It would become a just a meme like "wololo". What a non-issue
Nothing wrong with being a feminist (if you are). The problem is, of course, that being a "feminist" means many different things to different people. If you interpret being a "feminist" as someone who is in favor of equal opportunities for women, and treating women with equal respect in the workplace (and elsewhere), I guess that makes me a feminist, too.Lizzy wrote:
Btw I am not a feminist . . .
If, on the other hand, being a "feminist" means that we cannot recognize the self-evident biological differences between the sexes, then I guess that makes me a realist, not a feminist. If a "feminist" advocates changing the physical standards so women can join SEAL Team 6, or that a transgendered man-to-woman should be able to compete in the Olympics as a woman, then you've lost me. Also, if I cannot open the car or restaurant door for my female Significant Other without being hissed at by a self-described "feminist" who interprets it as a sign of female oppression, and not the love, affection and respect that is clearly intended, then the problem is not mine to solve.
So, whether you may be a feminist or not, Lizzy, let's recognize that women are entitled to respect without condescension. Cheers.
Lol I am your sort of feminist, I want to have the car door opened for me and to get flowers sometimes. I also like to bake cakes and to crochet. I like being female most of the time, but I don't like to be ignored because of it. No idea what SEAL team 6 is lol. Should I?
i like to bake cakes too, does it make me a female?Lizzy wrote:
Lol I am your sort of feminist, I want to have the car door opened for me and to get flowers sometimes. I also like to bake cakes and to crochet. I like being female most of the time, but I don't like to be ignored because of it. No idea what SEAL team 6 is lol. Should I?
Yes, you should, Lizzy. Google it. It's a Big Deal. When it was time to capture or kill Osama bin Laden, they called SEAL Team 6.Lizzy wrote:
No idea what SEAL team 6 is lol. Should I?
BTW, I love to cook and I am pretty good at it (at least on the dinner party scale, as opposed to running a restaurant). I also have expensive taste in wine. That said, I am a lousy baker, and I prefer to leave the science of baking to someone who enjoys it.
No, but it does make you a little girly, Nemo.nemuritor98 wrote:
i like to bake cakes too, does it make me a female?
Don't tell the guys at Fight Club.
uhh, i like to go shopping and some other "girly things"MontanaBB wrote:
No, but it does make you a little girly, Nemo.nemuritor98 wrote:
i like to bake cakes too, does it make me a female?Don't tell the guys at Fight Club.
It is good for guys to cook and shop, glad you enjoy it. I enjoy strategy games. So lets all get our boxes and live a bit. Group hug to all
Heheheheh.
I got the Arnold Schwarzenegger "Don't be a girly man!" video worked into this thread twice. 
Hey guys!
This post is still going?
*sigh*
Yeah, be a real lumberjack.. 
When you got gender studies diploma, and don't know what to do with it.
Nah, sorry I couldn't help myself, I don't really mean to be offensive or somethin'
Or get this? We could just enjoy the gd game! ITS A DAMN VIDEO GAME. The kind of people who are actually offended by this literally look for things to be offended by. It doesnt matter. You won a ------ game why cant you just chill the hell out and enjoy yourself on a game.
It was a joke, Jesus Christ chill out...
This is just foolish and Asinine. I don't understand why anyone would care enough to go on some mad political lefty rant because the message was directed to a male. I would prefer the developers work on bettering the game than trying to fit your leftist agenda, that suggests that a message offends you.
Guys, I'm not sure why anyone is still ranting about anything on this thread. The developers changed the message in question to a gender non-specific one several months ago.
Can a passing administrator close this thread?
