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Gold spamming needs to stop

We are all aware that some players like to test their abilities against other players, others like to compete but when things get a little bit rough they use some of their saved gold, while other just pay to win the scenario they are playing and completely shred everything un their way with gold spamming. But since the adding of videos in exchange for gold you get this last type of players almost every game you play, wich is awful.

I know that Bytro developed Call of War to make money, otherwise it would be a fan made game, but with so much gold being used the gaming experience is so awful that you start to look for other games, Bytro has to seek a balance because sooner or later players would start to seek forn other games.

It's impossible to fund developers without income, but it's also impossible to enjoy a game when a players gets +50 units out of nowhere (i've seen that) or when they blitz you and every time you attack them they heal. Maybe they could replace the daily videos to get gold for an advertisement every time you Open the game, or something, there are lots of ways to make money without ruining the Game experience

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25 Aug 2021, 05:01

No, Gold Spammers are rare enough to have a good gaming experience.

Noob
25 Aug 2021, 06:30

Julianc97 wrote:

We are all aware that some players like to test their abilities against other players, others like to compete but when things get a little bit rough they use some of their saved gold, while other just pay to win the scenario they are playing and completely shred everything un their way with gold spamming. But since the adding of videos in exchange for gold you get this last type of players almost every game you play, wich is awful.

I know that Bytro developed Call of War to make money, otherwise it would be a fan made game, but with so much gold being used the gaming experience is so awful that you start to look for other games, Bytro has to seek a balance because sooner or later players would start to seek forn other games.

It's impossible to fund developers without income, but it's also impossible to enjoy a game when a players gets +50 units out of nowhere (i've seen that) or when they blitz you and every time you attack them they heal. Maybe they could replace the daily videos to get gold for an advertisement every time you Open the game, or something, there are lots of ways to make money without ruining the Game experience

It is a PART OF THE GAME TO HAVE GOLD as the T&S says clearly. So stop complaining and go on and become more experienced. Some features are annoying but seriously I am winning vs someone who managed to rocket all of sweden on day 1.
25 Aug 2021, 10:49

TheWorldPartite wrote:

Spoiler
It is a PART OF THE GAME TO HAVE GOLD
Didn't you read what i just wrote?

TheWorldPartite wrote:

So stop complaining and go on and become more experienced.
Those easy comments that attack the person instead of the argument are just stupid, so don't expect me to answer that hahaha you don't know hay good/Bad i am

Emperor Im wrote:

No, Gold Spammers are rare enough to have a good gaming experience.
Maybe you are lucky, maybe i'm unlucky, but in my experience you find one of these guys every other game. And i'm not talking about guys that use 100k to help themselves wich is ok, i'm talking about guys that create brand new armies of +50 units, or even use fighters as tactical bombers against stacks with +50 defense and they just heal them after every attack

I said it clearly, i'm not talking about getting rid of gold, or setting a maximum per game, maybe having to watch and add or two every time you Open the game could help

25 Aug 2021, 12:55

Don't you think about it, AK140.

WHOS GONNA CARRY THE BOATS?
WHOS GONNA CARRY THE LOGS?
THEY DON'T KNOW YOU SON!
- David Goggins
25 Aug 2021, 14:49

Please note that players that buy gold keep this beautiful game free for the rest of us. As inconvenient 50 units popping out can be, it happens rarely in the maps that I play. If they do, try to fight them the best way you can so that they have to spend even more gold. Search for allies and give the golding player a tough time, the more he spends the more money Bytro gains to reinvest in the game.

Please note that gold denounce and gold bashing is against ToS which also counts for the forum.

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25 Aug 2021, 23:46

BMfox wrote:

Please note that players that buy gold keep this beautiful game free for the rest of us. As inconvenient 50 units popping out can be, it happens rarely in the maps that I play. If they do, try to fight them the best way you can so that they have to spend even more gold. Search for allies and give the golding player a tough time, the more he spends the more money Bytro gains to reinvest in the game.

Please note that gold denounce and gold bashing is against ToS which also counts for the forum.

Exactly what I meant
26 Aug 2021, 04:35

BMfox wrote:

Please note that players that buy gold keep this beautiful game free for the rest of us. As inconvenient 50 units popping out can be, it happens rarely in the maps that I play. If they do, try to fight them the best way you can so that they have to spend even more gold. Search for allies and give the golding player a tough time, the more he spends the more money Bytro gains to reinvest in the game.

Please note that gold denounce and gold bashing is against ToS which also counts for the forum.

Exactly, they are quite rare.
Noob
26 Aug 2021, 13:35

If they removed gold or limited it. the game might actually be successful and reach more audiences. and that's a big NO NO for bytro. why? because bytro is the company that try their. hardest to make sure they don't succeed.

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Chris kamara
26 Aug 2021, 23:48

AMG Morgan wrote:

If they removed gold or limited it. the game might actually be successful and reach more audiences. and that's a big NO NO for bytro. why? because bytro is the company that try their. hardest to make sure they don't succeed.
hehe yes larger audience means ads. the mod's will start to crash down on you tho
27 Aug 2021, 03:13

AMG Morgan wrote:

If they removed gold or limited it. the game might actually be successful and reach more audiences. and that's a big NO NO for bytro. why? because bytro is the company that try their. hardest to make sure they don't succeed.
bigger audience means nothing when you can’t make money of it . There is no point 1,000,000 X 0 is 0 . The company needs money to stay afloat and continue operating. nobody would continue running a game when they don’t get anything of it. If they wanted to limit gold , then they would have to put ads every min or make it buy to play.
27 Aug 2021, 08:11 (edited)

Tgufyru wrote:

bigger audience means nothing when you can’t make money of it . There is no point 1,000,000 X 0 is 0 . The company needs money to stay afloat and continue operating. nobody would continue running a game when they don’t get anything of it. If they wanted to limit gold , then they would have to put ads every min or make it buy to play.
of course companies need money. but that does not mean making a game pay to win. they could still earn money by maybe adding more things to high command. or even making the game payed to play for a small fee. and also I want won't pretend to be some sorta of business model genuis. but CoW is very good and I would like to see it succeed. but the truth is pay to win games are not successful. and as long they continue this model the game will forever be small and not get of it's shell.
"I don't know jeff!"
Chris kamara
27 Aug 2021, 08:14

and also the fact that half or even all. of the steam page review for COW. are all about complaining about gold just shows how damaging it is

"I don't know jeff!"
Chris kamara
27 Aug 2021, 08:29

TheWorldPartite wrote:

hehe yes larger audience means ads. the mod's will start to crash down on you tho
MODS= Muddy old dudes showering
"I don't know jeff!"
Chris kamara
27 Aug 2021, 09:20

Nothing will happen and the chat moderators will treat them like gods

The President
27 Aug 2021, 12:38

AMG Morgan wrote:

Tgufyru wrote:

bigger audience means nothing when you can’t make money of it . There is no point 1,000,000 X 0 is 0 . The company needs money to stay afloat and continue operating. nobody would continue running a game when they don’t get anything of it. If they wanted to limit gold , then they would have to put ads every min or make it buy to play.
of course companies need money. but that does not mean making a game pay to win. they could still earn money by maybe adding more things to high command. or even making the game payed to play for a small fee. and also I want won't pretend to be some sorta of business model genuis. but CoW is very good and I would like to see it succeed. but the truth is pay to win games are not successful. and as long they continue this model the game will forever be small and not get of it's shell.
Well , there is no right or wrong decision in this . Everything has it’s on ups and downs . Making the game p2w makes more money but attracts less customers . Removing/limiting gold spending may increase customers but loses a major source of revenue . Adding more things to high command may or may not increase more ppl who buy hc but I don’t think it will be enough to cover gold buying . Adding a fee to play will decrease the amount of mobile players (as pay to play concept isn’t very successful on mobile ) but for pc it will be normal and will increase the amount of pc players . I understand how bloody frustrating it is fighting gold users , when I have fought 3 straight games against golders and losing 3-4 kd ratio to them . ( a 20+ day game, 13 day game and another lesser day game, 13+ day game had a guy with axis doctrine but 200-300+ troops on day 11 , 20+ day game enemy was gold healing a lot) but sadly there is nothing I can do.
27 Aug 2021, 13:10

AMG Morgan wrote:

If they removed gold or limited it. the game might actually be successful and reach more audiences. and that's a big NO NO for bytro. why? because bytro is the company that try their. hardest to make sure they don't succeed.

AMG Morgan wrote:

and also the fact that half or even all. of the steam page review for COW. are all about complaining about gold just shows how damaging it is
What we as players call successful for a game is different from what a company calls "successful". Under capitalism, profit is above everything including but not limited to fun, player retention, and reaching more audience, so it doesn't matter how many people are actually playing CoW and how many people are actually enjoying it as long as there are profit, it is "succesful".

freezy wrote:

As I said, we are very successful with the current model, with our best year in company history. So maybe its understandable that no one here currently thinks "we have to do something about this topic or we are doomed".
(Note: Not an attack on @freezy here; I think freezy is really doing a great job and brave for even mentioning a bit of an insider information of the company. Really, thank you, freezy!)

TheWorldPartite wrote:

hehe yes larger audience means ads. the mod's will start to crash down on you tho
Limiting gold usage will not automatically get the game reach to reach more audiences magically. It will, however, very likely increase the rate of player retention because the majority of the players are not gold spenders, but at the same time, will reduce the sale of gold and likely high command as well, and may trigger backlash by the gold spenders with possible legal actions from their part. And that can cost Bytro a lotta money.

And to get this "larger audience" in the first place means that Bytro needs to advertise CoW more and even update their old ads to include "Hey! We're not pay-to-win! Come play our game!" and their ad revenue from this new audience may not cover the expenses loss from increased server activity due to larger audience, updating and advertising CoW more, and less sale of gold and high command.

AMG Morgan wrote:

of course companies need money. but that does not mean making a game pay to win. they could still earn money by maybe adding more things to high command. or even making the game payed to play for a small fee. and also I want won't pretend to be some sorta of business model genuis. but CoW is very good and I would like to see it succeed. but the truth is pay to win games are not successful. and as long they continue this model the game will forever be small and not get of it's shell.
Remember what you said?

AMG Morgan wrote:

honestly you have really ruined the forum for me. you have turned the forum from a fun little discussion. about call of war to Twitter 2.0 where every single thing is made about politics. and on that note I am out
The forum was already plagued by stuff unrelated to CoW even as far back as 6 years ago. Just look at this thread: Monetization for this game should be rethink once more

Though it prolly has been normalized for most of you, I still find it weird that the players are even talking about the game's business model. I, too, wish for the best of CoW, but I realized the problem is beyond CoW and beyond its business model. We lack the necessary tools to discuss and address the problem if we only limit ourselves with the game's business model out of fear of getting pOliTicAL.

For anyone who is really interested, here is something to read and watch:

Gaming under Socialism

Why Gamers Should be against Capitalism

27 Aug 2021, 14:22

Fair enough

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Chris kamara

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