If Danzig Can be Independent, so Can The Vatican.

Dantzig and the territory it managed was about 2000 km², Vatican city is not even 0.5 km²...

Fair enough, but my point still stands.

JesterTheSheep wrote:

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Thoughts?

Vatican was not defended by a massive army, but by an extreme morale penalty for anyone who dared to invade

VorlonFCW wrote:

Vatican was not defended by a massive army, but by an extreme morale penalty for anyone who dared to invade

JesterTheSheep wrote:

Ever notice that the Free City of Danzig takes up a whole country? Ever noticed how much it bugs you? Well guess what: well after Danzig was (re)occupied by Germany, the Vatican City was still an independent micronation! Yes, and ENTIRE CITY IN ITALY managed to stay independent through the entire war! Granted, this was because they swore neutrality, but even so: If Danzig can exist, so should too the Vatican. Just sayin'.

It would work a lot like Luxembourg, Slovakia, etc. smaller countries: 3 provinces, all somewhat inflated, of food, goods, and steel. I mean, it would be an interesting challenge in All Countries, All In for Italy, given that there is now an entire nation inside of their borders with a massively inflated military. Thoughts?

Here are my opinions. The idea of Vatican being independent is not really possible. Vatican is too small and it is protected by the Italian country/police. I was thinking that when we have a small country, we have a little army. For example, I am Communist Russia and I am no match for Ukraine. 1/4 of their army is equal to mine.

Solution:

Would it be possible if Italy must have shared map relation with you and they will help protect you?

1. Shared map
2. Helping with the Italian war effort
3. Sharing Resource and troops

Any ways to improve on this?

JesterTheSheep wrote:

they did have a guard force, and it was only disbanded in the 70's. So technically speaking, their army couldn't have been much weaker than Chile's.

But then, there were and still are additionally these 100 brave Vatican soldiers:

With god's blessing, they would have beaten up the Chilean troops with their white gloves.

Nah, seriously, we have other issues here than missing Vatican in a war game.

Everyone here is talking about the Vatican City being independent

San Marino and Liechtenstein: Am I a joke to you?

Monaco should also be a nation

KrestelGaming wrote:

Everyone here is talking about the Vatican City being independent

San Marino and Liechtenstein: Am I a joke to you?

Good point those nations should be in the game

This reminds me of a famous quote from Joseph Stalin (there are several versions and legends about when/if this was actually said

But does it matter what the pope thinks? Joseph Stalin was once asked to soften his persecution of Christians, to persuade Pope Pius XII to abandon his indifference toward Nazism. “Oho!” said Stalin. “The pope! How many divisions has he got?”