I was thinking that it would be awesome if CoW added Ireland as a playable nation on the 100 player World Map. I was also wondering if there was a way that the CoW team could do custom maps like how they do it on Supremacy 1914?
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No, the Rising made the Irish hate the rebels. It was the heavy-handed, ham-fisted British response that did that.oceanhawk wrote:
turned peoples mind, on how we need to be independent from the UK
Nope.oceanhawk wrote:
Was a victory in a way
Quasi-duck wrote:
No, the Rising made the Irish hate the rebels. It was the heavy-handed, ham-fisted British response that did that.oceanhawk wrote:
turned peoples mind, on how we need to be independent from the UKNope.oceanhawk wrote:
Was a victory in a way
you know nothing...
once they were executed public opinion changed..
look at your text book..
Now children gather round, the rebels were not supported by the ordinary Irish person as many Irish men were fighting in WW1 so understandably Irish mood was not in favour at the time. Many of the Rebels were heckled and spat on. Hell the families of the leaders (and also volunteers) became outcasts in society.
But,when the British government took the step to execute the rebels it led to increased support for their cause and that of a free Ireland which was taken up by nationalists and republicans.
The British government had been warned that this would happen but ignored the warnings when they realized the obvious they stopped the executions but by then twas too late as public opinion had changed and many now saw the Rebels as martyrs for a casue and a noble casue at that (independence and freedom from a colonial opressor).
I clearly stated this. In fact, you quoted it.oceanhawk wrote:
once they were executed public opinion changed..
Might want to specify this, I have textbooks lying around dating back to 1883.oceanhawk wrote:
look at your text book..
Lol, have you read any books about the Rising released in recent years by Mercier Press? They are pretty good, especially John Gibney's "A History of the Easter Rising in 50 Objects". I have a signed copy of this as well as shaking hands with the author.Darren I wrote:
Now children gather round, the rebels were not supported by the ordinary Irish person as many Irish menwere fighting in WW1 so understandably Irish mood was not in favourat the time. Many of the Rebels were heckled and spat on. Hell thefamilies of the leaders (and also volunteers) became outcasts in society.But,when the British government took the step to execute the rebels it led to increased support for their cause and that of a free Ireland which was taken upby nationalists and republicans.
The British government had been warned that this would happen but ignored thewarnings when they realized the obvious they stopped the executions but bythen twas too late as public opinion had changed and many now saw the Rebels as martyrs for a casue and a noble casue at that (independence and freedom from a colonial opressor).
Congrats
Nope I take it is a good book? I have read a few, the Rising is actually a interesting subject pitty really that some folks here dont know more aor can/t be botherd to research their own historyQuasi-duck wrote:
Lol, have you read any books about the Rising released in recent years by Mercier Press? They are pretty good, especially John Gibney's "A History of the Easter Rising in 50 Objects". I have a signed copy of this as well as shaking hands with the author.Darren I wrote:
Now children gather round, the rebels were not supported by the ordinary Irish person as many Irish menwere fighting in WW1 so understandably Irish mood was not in favourat the time. Many of the Rebels were heckled and spat on. Hell thefamilies of the leaders (and also volunteers) became outcasts in society.But,when the British government took the step to execute the rebels it led to increased support for their cause and that of a free Ireland which was taken upby nationalists and republicans.
The British government had been warned that this would happen but ignored thewarnings when they realized the obvious they stopped the executions but bythen twas too late as public opinion had changed and many now saw the Rebels as martyrs for a casue and a noble casue at that (independence and freedom from a colonial opressor).
Excellent book, I highly recommend it. It has everything from the Pearse brothers teacups to a Mosin-Nagant from the Aud to the Proclamation.Darren I wrote:
Nope I take it is a good book?
Totally, I love this period of history. There is a great book, from Mercier Press again, called Truce, about the War of Independence. An excellent read.Darren I wrote:
I have read a few, the Rising is actually a interesting subject pitty really that some folks here dont know more aor can/t be botherd to research their own history
Quasi now I will be hitting my libary Tuesday to get my hands on one. This era in Irish history is very good, also I love reading up on the Civil War
Good luck! I hope your library is well stocked, the 50 Objects book was only released a few months back, I went to its launch in Glasnevin Cemetery, so it might not be in libraries yet. Truce is new enough too.Darren I wrote:
Quasi now I will be hitting my libary Tuesday to get my hands on one.
noooooooooo dont say that 
Quasi Irish Libraires are the best in the world 
Totally, only problem is that sometimes the British shoot them up and destroy great, antique books like "The Pope Is Antichrist" #1916risingreferenceDarren I wrote:
Quasi Irish Libraires are the best in the world
Yes, but are some of the other nations they have on there realistic? I mean, half those factions couldn't survive by themselves in real life.Quasi-duck wrote:
This is stupid, compared to more or less any other playable nation and some unplayable nations, Ireland is weak. Mainly agricultural, small population, very little industrialisation, poorly armed military (during WWII, anyways), cannot produce arms or ammo, no weapon devs experience.The country is very weak and should not be on the map as a playable nation.
Like what?Carl Wilson wrote:
I mean, half those factions couldn't survive by themselves in real life.
All the states in the USA couldn't support a large army. I am sure that New Zealand can't. Papua New Guinea probably couldn't. Mongolia can't, it has just enough to support the population. You really think that they could manufacture guns at mass supply? Siberia can't, half of it is frozen all year, and doesn't produce anything. Those are just a few.
I'm sure the East US can, but yeah.Carl Wilson wrote:
All the states in the USA couldn't support a large army.
That's racist, they can. NZ did a lot in WWII.Carl Wilson wrote:
I am sure that New Zealand can't.
Have you heard of Genghis Khan?Carl Wilson wrote:
Mongolia can't
Siberia has lots of natural resources and is not frozen all year round.Carl Wilson wrote:
Siberia can't, half of it is frozen all year, and doesn't produce anything
I agree with you..Carl Wilson wrote:
All the states in the USA couldn't support a large army. I am sure that New Zealand can't. Papua New Guinea probably couldn't. Mongolia can't, it has just enough to support the population. You really think that they could manufacture guns at mass supply? Siberia can't, half of it is frozen all year, and doesn't produce anything. Those are just a few.
but them nations are poor examples....
Most american states could still win and fight wars.. without the federal government...
Okay, maybe not all the states, but Madagascar? Most of the island is forest and lemurs.
Wait, what? Are you saying that the federal government reduces resource production....? Sweet baby Jesus.....oceanhawk wrote:
Most american states could still win and fight wars.. without the federal government...
Uhm, uh, *cough*. You got me. Half the damn thing is desert, the rest jungle with a mountain range for a spine.Carl Wilson wrote:
Okay, maybe not all the states, but Madagascar? Most of the island is forest and lemurs.
Still though! Burn the sand and make glass cannons!
Quasi-duck wrote:
Wait, what? Are you saying that the federal government reduces resource production....? Sweet baby Jesus.....oceanhawk wrote:
Most american states could still win and fight wars.. without the federal government...
I doubt you are aware...
well.. Im referring to national guard.. some national guard outfits are stronger than nations armies..
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