It's time to vote!

20 Jul 2016, 23:00

Greetings Generals,

Time has come, time to vote, vote the map or scenario you like the most.

We're thrilled about the fact that we received so many ideas from the community, no less than 60 different ideas for maps or scenarios!

We're delighted that participation has been so high and the least we can do it is to thank you for the support given in this collective project!

Due to the amount of proposals, we thought that having 3 rounds of voting is the best:

The first round will include all the proposals and you'll can vote for up to 3 proposals. From 07/21/2016 at 00:00(West European Summer Time) until 07/24/2016 at 00:00(West European Summer Time)
The second round will include the 10 most voted proposals from the first round and in this round you'll just be able to vote for 1 option. From 07/25/2016 at 00:00(West European Summer Time) until 07/28/2016 at 00:00(West European Summer Time)
The third round will include the 3 most voted second round proposals and like the last one, you'll just be able to vote for 1 option. From 07/29/2016 at 00:00 until 07/31/2016 at 23:59.

Informative Note: West European Summer Time is the time of London, Portugal and Canary Islands.

How to vote?

We wanted to make voting simple and easy for all of us, but we also wanted to be sure that there's no security flaws. Thus we enabled a link to a Google Form poll, where you can join click right here. To answer to the poll, you'll have to login with your Google account.

Informative note: We added the login with Google to be sure there will only be 1 answer per player.

We also thought about the fact that some of you may want to help with the map which will be sent to Bytro Labs, thus we're going to give you that possibility.

For it, you must contact one of these 3 staff members using conversation in the forum or by PM:

@Sir McSquiggles -> Community Coordinator of CoW
@Defous -> Polish Super Moderator
@nemuritor98_ -> Spanish Super Game Operator

Tell us why you think you could be useful for this project. The more information you provide it will be easier for us to know exactly how else you can help us. This help will be fully volunteer from your side.

Don't wait, Vote now!

Link to the poll -> http://goo.gl/forms/roYMZBoWSov0nfKl1

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127 Replies

1 Aug 2016, 01:19

wwhhooo, we did it

we won!

Historical map, whoo

soz poland-soviet war

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

1 Aug 2016, 17:37 (edited)

Pablo22510 wrote:
Errr, you can see how the Polish server has voted a lot. Poland-Ukraine war? Really?

Yeah, that got a chuckle. I'm not sure how the 1918-19 Polish-Ukraine war made the first round cut in the first place. Important to the Poles, yes, but obscure to anyone who is not Polish (or perhaps Ukrainian). Given the bitterness of that war, and the post-WWII border changes imposed by the former Soviet union, it's good to see that these two modern neighbors have reconciled -- largely on the basis of their shared distrust of the Russians.

PetrusFons wrote:
Maybe an in-game message should have . . .

. . . been used.

No kidding. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the overwhelming majority of persons who play the COW game never saw a message about the poll or voting. I participate in the COW forum two or three times per week, and I never saw the message. Not once. Only because I saw the headline listed in the forum topics page did I vote in the second round.

Relying on the forum to advertise a user poll was short-sighted and foolish. If you want a representative sample of all users, it should have been advertised on the top of every game page in every language. The small number of total participants and the disproportionate number of voters from the Polish server tells anyone with an ounce of common sense that the poll was not "advertised widely."

1 Aug 2016, 17:44

"I would rather be the hammer than the anvil." -Field Marshal Erwin Rommel

And who knew that Simon & Garfunkel were quoting Rommel??

1 Aug 2016, 19:45

Woo hoo!!!!!! We won!!!!!! Yeah!!!!!

3 Aug 2016, 14:52

Now we wait. I am patient. I can wait.

Spoiler

GET THIS MAP OUT ALREADY BEFORE I COME OVER THERE AND---

4 Aug 2016, 09:09

#VoteColdWar

#VoteHistoricalWorld

sorry Poland. But I don't have time for four players. And Poland loses any way

4 Aug 2016, 09:36

Can you link to the results?

4 Aug 2016, 09:41

MontanaBB wrote:
Can you link to the results?

https://goo.gl/iA2IBw

4 Aug 2016, 09:45

Thanks you, sir.

4 Aug 2016, 21:20

WTF almost all the Polish players voted for the Soviet-Polish war.

5 Aug 2016, 14:21

You can probably guess why they did too.

British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

5 Aug 2016, 15:09

comrade dave wrote:
You can probably guess why they did too.

Not quite hard to assume, yes. I'm all for being proud of your country's history but... Well... It's not my country! xD

5 Aug 2016, 18:39

If only there were an alternate history of 1919-23, in which Poland and Ukraine defeated the infant Soviet Union and installed a democratically-elected parliamentary government at St. Petersburg, thus strangling the Bolshevik bastard child in its cradle.

5 Aug 2016, 18:44

MontanaBB wrote:
If only there were an alternate history of 1919-23, in which Poland and Ukraine defeated the infant Soviet Union and installed a democratically-elected parliamentary government at St. Petersburg, thus strangling the Bolshevik bastard child in its cradle.

The world would be very different.

5 Aug 2016, 19:49 (edited)

purplepizza117 wrote:
The world would be very different.

Yes, in that alternate reality, it is entirely possible that Nazi Germany would have won World War II because there was no Stalin-led Soviet Union to sacrifice 12 to 20 million Russians and other Soviet citizens in order to defeat the Nazi invasion. I suppose we (I) should be careful what we (I) wish for. Very often historical tragedies were necessary to advance the cause of human civilization.

Kidding and armchair general conjecture aside, the 20th Century history of Germany, Poland, Russia and Ukraine supplied more than those countries' reasonably bearable shares of human suffering. If only 21st century Russia could learn to respect and accommodate its smaller neighbors, that corner of the world would be a much better place.

5 Aug 2016, 19:53

MontanaBB wrote:
Yes, in that alternate reality, it is entirely possible that Nazi Germany would have won World War II because there was no Stalin-led Soviet Union to sacrifice 12 to 20 million Russians and other Soviet citizens in order to defeat the Nazi invasion. I suppose we (I) should be careful what we (I) wish for. Very often historical tragedies were necessary to advance the cause of human civilization.

Right. Then again, Hitler viewed Slavic people as inferior and thereby could quite possibly have invaded Russia anyway.

5 Aug 2016, 20:32

Alternate history is a bit like differential equations: when you move or remove one piece the ripple effect changes others, so you would think you've done something good by putting an end to the Soviet Union before it really got started, thereby saving millions of lives in the process, only to have something worse come about as a result.

I'm sure that if Roosevelt and Churchill could have glimpsed today's reality from April 1945 -- 70 years into the future -- they both would have been reasonably satisfied with where history has led Europe, America, Britain, Poland, Russia and most of the world in 2016. Churchill would have been saddened by the demise of the Empire, but cheered by an independent Poland and the fall of Communism, the success of British-spawned Australia, Canada, and New Zealand, the rise of new, western-oriented India, and the continuing fraternal relations of the Commonwealth. Roosevelt was less ambitious in his hopes for eastern Europe, but I think he too would be pleased with the rise of independent and democratic states in eastern Europe, the end of European colonialism, and the success of his United Nations in avoiding another world war. I doubt either could have imagined how successfully today's Germany and Japan have been integrated into the western alliance and world economy. As we lurch from crisis to crisis in today's world, it pays to sometimes take stock of just how much worse off we could be if WW2 had ended differently.

5 Aug 2016, 21:44

MontanaBB wrote:
Alternate history is a bit like differential equations: when you move or remove one piece the ripple effect changes others, so you would think you've done something good by putting an end to the Soviet Union before it really got started, thereby saving millions of lives in the process, only to have something worse come about as a result.
I'm sure that if Roosevelt and Churchill could have glimpsed today's reality from April 1945 -- 70 years into the future -- they both would have been reasonably satisfied with where history has led Europe, America, Britain, Poland, Russia and most of the world in 2016. Churchill would have been saddened by the demise of the Empire, but cheered by an independent Poland and the fall of Communism, the success of British-spawned Australia, Canada, and New Zealand, the rise of new, western-oriented India, and the continuing fraternal relations of the Commonwealth. Roosevelt was less ambitious in his hopes for eastern Europe, but I think he too would be pleased with the rise of independent and democratic states in eastern Europe, the end of European colonialism, and the success of his United Nations in avoiding another world war. I doubt either could have imagined how successfully today's Germany and Japan have been integrated into the western alliance and world economy. As we lurch from crisis to crisis in today's world, it pays to sometimes take stock of just how much worse off we could be if WW2 had ended differently.

I can, of course, estimate that while Roosevelt and Churchill would be proud of the world today, they both were proud of their world in that day. They realised the world had issues and set out to fix them, Churchill attempting to eradicate communism/fascism while Roosevelt was more concerned with ending war altogether. The present is no worse than any time in history.

5 Aug 2016, 22:39

purplepizza117 wrote:
The present is no worse than any time in history.

Arguably better, and largely as a result of the efforts of Churchill and Roosevelt.