Italians are the reason The Germans never took the USSR...
all the Italians fault...
Armor wise... I go and read about it know..
What?! The Italians tried their gosh darned best! Don't forget the Romanians, Bulgarians, Yugoslavians, Austrians, and Spanish were there to with even more countries present! The front was too massive and the Axis forces too small. Some Romanians had around 30 men to defend a mile or more of land with 28 rifles and no heavy support. No MG's either. The one ones without rifle's had Russian-made broomsticks!
Besides, the Italians were fighting somewhere they should never have been. Let me remind you too that an Italian squadron was one of the best of WWII. Flew Italian made planes too, by the by.
Sorted by when they were created. All links goes to Italian wikipedia to their respective page.
11 Apr 2016, 16:50
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Italians are the reason The Germans never took the USSR...
all the Italians fault...
Armor wise... I go and read about it know..
What?! The Italians tried their gosh darned best! Don't forget the Romanians, Bulgarians, Yugoslavians, Austrians, and Spanish were there to with even more countries present! The front was too massive and the Axis forces too small. Some Romanians had around 30 men to defend a mile or more of land with 28 rifles and no heavy support. No MG's either. The one ones without rifle's had Russian-made broomsticks!
Besides, the Italians were fighting somewhere they should never have been. Let me remind you too that an Italian squadron was one of the best of WWII. Flew Italian made planes too, by the by.
Thats not why...
the fact that the Germans had to come rescue them from Greece delayed Barb for about 2-3 weeks..
that time before the winter set.. could have meant the Germans took Moscow..
otherwise, Yes they did fight hard..
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists -Friedrich von Haye
11 Apr 2016, 16:52
oceanhawk wrote:
that time before the winter set.. could have meant the Germans took Moscow..
That is always greatly over exagreated. Besides, even if Moscow was lost the Soviets would just go back to the Urals. The Germans would never win.
11 Apr 2016, 16:58
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
that time before the winter set.. could have meant the Germans took Moscow..
That is always greatly over exagreated. Besides, even if Moscow was lost the Soviets would just go back to the Urals. The Germans would never win.
If Moscow fell.. the rest would fall a lot easier..
sure I wouldn't be surprised if the people upraised.. and supported the Germans..
The Japs Might have even invaded from the north..
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists -Friedrich von Haye
11 Apr 2016, 17:03
oceanhawk wrote:
If Moscow fell.. the rest would fall a lot easier..
Baseless and shown to be untrue by how many large cities were captured! Everything important was moved.
oceanhawk wrote:
sure I wouldn't be surprised if the people upraised.. and supported the Germans..
They never did and never would, as the Germans planned to turn Moscow into a lake and kill all within. That would turn the entire nation into warriors and partisans.
oceanhawk wrote:
The Japs Might have even invaded from the north..
They tried and failed before. It was the east anyway, not north. The North Pole is the only thing north of Russia, apart from more Russia and water.
Renault R35 was a french tank, used by Italy, yes, but still a french tank
11 Apr 2016, 17:07
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
If Moscow fell.. the rest would fall a lot easier..
Baseless and shown to be untrue by how many large cities were captured! Everything important was moved.
oceanhawk wrote:
sure I wouldn't be surprised if the people upraised.. and supported the Germans..
They never did and never would, as the Germans planned to turn Moscow into a lake and kill all within. That would turn the entire nation into warriors and partisans.
oceanhawk wrote:
The Japs Might have even invaded from the north..
They tried and failed before. It was the east anyway, not north. The North Pole is the only thing north of Russia, apart from more Russia and water.
Loss of Moscow, would have not helped...
Maybe they would have upraised.. they hated Stalin.. and he was losing the war.. maybe the people would uprise against Stalin and a German Occupation
yes I did mean to say the east.. not North..
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists -Friedrich von Haye
11 Apr 2016, 17:09
oceanhawk wrote:
they hated Stalin
You do know that people loved Stalin, right? Why do you think he was on all/most propaganda posters? Why do you think people cared when he stayed in Moscow?
11 Apr 2016, 17:12
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
they hated Stalin
You do know that people loved Stalin, right? Why do you think he was on all/most propaganda posters? Why do you think people cared when he stayed in Moscow?
Haha is that a joke?
Stalin killed 60million people..
He put all them propaganda posters.. who do you think put them there?
the People
They were had no where to go..
You may not know this.. but that place cold.. grrr
and I doubt they were able to leave
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists -Friedrich von Haye
11 Apr 2016, 17:12
oceanhawk wrote:
Haha is that a joke?
Stalin killed 60million people..
He put all them propaganda posters.. who do you think put them there?
the People
They were had no where to go..
You may not know this.. but that place cold.. grrr
and I doubt they were able to leave
Get a source, you never have any good ones.
11 Apr 2016, 17:14
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Haha is that a joke?
Stalin killed 60million people..
He put all them propaganda posters.. who do you think put them there?
the People
They were had no where to go..
You may not know this.. but that place cold.. grrr
and I doubt they were able to leave
Get a source, you never have any good ones.
I do... plus any source is better than Wikipedia
no source is better..
says a lot if you get your info from there..
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists -Friedrich von Haye
11 Apr 2016, 17:15
oceanhawk wrote:
I do... plus any source is better than Wikipedia
no source is better..
says a lot if you get your info from there..
Wikipedia is peer-reviewed work, you still fail to give a source.
11 Apr 2016, 17:17
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
I do... plus any source is better than Wikipedia
no source is better..
says a lot if you get your info from there..
Wikipedia is peer-reviewed work, you still fail to give a source.
Wikipedia is good page!
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius. "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
11 Apr 2016, 17:33
oceanhawk wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Haha is that a joke?
Stalin killed 60million people..
He put all them propaganda posters.. who do you think put them there?
the People
They were had no where to go..
You may not know this.. but that place cold.. grrr
and I doubt they were able to leave
Get a source, you never have any good ones.
I do... plus any source is better than Wikipedia
no source is better..
says a lot if you get your info from there..
quasi is right, people in the ussr loved his job, most of them
i can't say the same for the puppets countries.
11 Apr 2016, 17:35
nemuritor98_ wrote:
quasi is right, people in the ussr loved his job, most of them
i can't say the same for the puppets countries.
For example, Romania.
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius. "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
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