Liberating Countries

V1nd1cat0r wrote:

dont buy res with gold its indeed a ploy. instead finish research or buildings

V1nd1cat0r wrote:

V1nd1cat0r wrote:

A nation invaded cannot go back to its original state, if France is defeated and revolted it will turn Spanish, or German, or Italian, but never go back to France, AI can never go back to AI nations once defeated, I'm sorry but are you guys new? It's like you guys don't know this mechanic.

I did not say it does, but I proposed a way for countries to become independent

sorry if my answer too late

I like this idea, the ability to give back core provinces to an ally without having to get into war against each other would be an extremely useful addition to team games where you CANT give an ally his provinces back.

Another item I began to consider is the reformation of buffer states able to be built between nations after conquests. Just to put those few non-useful provinces between you and an un-trusted neighbour

Without having read the whole thread: I like the idea to be able to liberate provinces (and return them to their former owner). Especially in team/alliance mode it feels weird that you actually conquer the provinces of your allies.

Currently province trading is limited to 1 per day, and gives a morale penalty on the traded province. We may simply remove this limitation for returning core provinces to their former owners.

Yes.

I am in agreement with Zarathustra here.

That would be great, (un)limit the limitation to unlimited trades for the original owner only, not unlimited trades to non-original owners.

Limits are okay in moderation.

Perhaps a 24 hour period after 'liberating' to return it to the original owner. After that time the limit reinstates and it cannot be returned unless the territory falls and you deliberate it

That's not good, what if the person can't log on for a day?

That could be a problem, I know I have days where I lapse not being able to play. Although, in a game where you're going to care a little more about liberating or having liberating matter more, the players would probably attempt to get online a little more often.

maybe the game is good as it is but if you want to liberate contries i have a proposition :

for exemple in the Historical 10p map if moral in all your colonies is very low (-33% in Tunisia for exemple) the contry will revolt and became independent so

france may loose : morocoo - algeria - tunisia - syria

UK : Egypte and arabian coasts - gibraltar and it's islands (maybe N.Irland also)

Italy : Libya

USSR : part of poland-Ukraine

Germany : part of poland

Yougoslavia : Serbia (or an other small composant)

USA : may com back to the North vs South (far impossible but let's imagine)

Turkey : maybe caucasus

but it will need a lot of time and it will be difficult to implant on the game

i have an idea.

if by liberating countries to give them back to the original owner will happen then our problem is the limit of how many province can give a day (currently 4 per game, 1 a day), if this is going to be an alliance match only feature which it should, then we should either:

1. give multiple province by trade at the same time (with a cool-down of 1 day a province)

or

2. have a "liberate" option to instantly give the province back to its original owner once it reach a morale of 40-50%

this should only be an alliance only option though.

That might be a good idea, although it might also be pretty buggy.

we can already give province to others, this will be an improvement to the present system.