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New Infantry Unit- Snipers (new armor type as well?)
I propose a new infantry unit, it being the sniper. I've heard that they are just integrated within infantry, but historically, snipers were many a time working alone, with the german infantry held off for days sometimes during their westward march by a Brit or French squad of them, in the Winter War Russian units were being annihilated by them, Stalingrad, where the rubble and lack of German training led to crushing of soldier's morale, by the Germans against the invading US forces, approaching and encircling them with ease in dense vegetation due to fault in US doctrine, and by the Japanese forces in the jungles of the Pacific. And if you would argue its size, I do not believe Commando squadrons were all that big, either.
Features:
-would branch of immediately from the infantry tech, similar to armored car to light tanks (same day)
-incredible defensive value against soft class, 5-6 first level, offensive is weaker, at 1.5-2.5
-good defensive value against armor (simulates them waiting for crew to leave tank to refuel, repair, eat, etc.) at 4, but very weak offensive, .5-1
-+75% in cities and varied terrain, however, they were weak in mountainous and plain terrain which saw them little use in North Africa, -50%
Also add the armor class of "Specialist," (integrate the same to commandos)
-most infantry are weak when attacking the class,
offensive values: militia start at .3 and.5 for final level, infantry start at .8 and 1.5 at final level, not too sure on how much better motorized and mech should be
defensive values: militia get .8 to start and 1.5 for final, 1 to start and 2-2.5 for final level on infantry
-need ideas on armor effectiveness
-air and other bombardment would also be very weak against them
tactical bomber: .8 to start and scale to 1.5 for final, interceptor have no damage until level 4, .3 and .6 for final, strategic and naval start at .3 and scale to 1 for final
cruisers get same as latter, and battleships get same as tact (1.7 for nuclear)
arty gets get same as BB and tact
rockets get 1/3 of what they do to infantry, and nuke rockets and bombers just annihilate
The specialty of the class, however, is that they have the chance to "evade" damage, or rather, the enemy only has a chance of inflicting damage on them (don't rage yet, balance in mind
militia-30% on offense, scales to 50%, and 40% on defense, scales to 60%
infantry-40%, scales to 60%, and 50% to 75%
motorized-+5% off infantry
mech- another +5%
armored car-?
LT-?
MT-?
HT-?
Tact-50% to 80%
other air- 40% to 60%
bombardments- 30% to 60%
rockets-60% to 80%
and it's hard to dodge a nuke
these percentages are registered separately per damage dealing unit, not the average of a stack
of course, to balance this out and simulate the small size of these units IRL, they get a deduction of very small health, with commandos going to 15 and snipers getting 10
help with armored effectiveness and overall criticism will be appreciated
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Mate, this guy fought in the mountains and is the sniper with the most confirmed kills.aDudeWhoDoesThings wrote:
they were weak in mountainous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4
Other than that, I proclaim myself neutral about this issue for two reasons. One, I was against this but the way you explained it is great, so I'm not sure know. Two, I'm too tired right now to read everything
P.S. I suggest making a poll.
Yeah, make it a poll. I agree.
uhhhhhmmmmmm, I don't exactly know how to do that...
"Honor? Glory? There's no point in speaking to a killer who indulges in such nonsense."
"It's a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated"
In more options.
Got it
"Honor? Glory? There's no point in speaking to a killer who indulges in such nonsense."
"It's a crime we call victory, paid for by the pain of the defeated"
I am neutral on the topic, maybe even a little against it. If sniper units were made they should be a lot weaker against tanks (.5-.7) and they should have very little hp (3-5), so they can be killed easily, with your suggestion they would be indestructible and a few of them could hold an army . Their strong side would be taking out infantry only
You do know that most snipers just took pot-shots, right? Also, there were no one thousand man strong units purely made of snipers. In fact, most Russian "snipers" were just men with Mosin-Nagants, only iron sights.
As for the specialist, that is just way too awkward for a unit that seems to just carry around a load of rabbit's feet.
Sadly ducky boy, you're wrong. Most soviet snipers were fully equipped with scopes due to their status as celebrities among the troops. The ironsight sniper you're thinking of was Finish, during the Winter War.Quasi-duck wrote:
You do know that most snipers just took pot-shots, right? Also, there were no one thousand man strong units purely made of snipers. In fact, most Russian "snipers" were just men with Mosin-Nagants, only iron sights.As for the specialist, that is just way too awkward for a unit that seems to just carry around a load of rabbit's feet.
You could term many in WW2 as sharpshooters, or just generally good marksmen. To have an entire unit of these wouldn't work out- the British did it during the Boar War but later made snipers work at company and platoon level. Its the same as with Machine gunners- they're all included in the standard 'Infantry' regiment.
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TouchΓ©.TankBuster wrote:
Most soviet snipers were fully equipped with scopes due to their status as celebrities among the troops.
Rumour has it, that some of them, even got real food!Quasi-duck wrote:
TouchΓ©.TankBuster wrote:
Most soviet snipers were fully equipped with scopes due to their status as celebrities among the troops.
"Hit first ! Hit hard ! Keep on hitting ! ! (The 3 H's)" Admiral Jackie Fisher
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Rumour has it around 2000 of them were women.TankBuster wrote:
Rumour has it, that some of them, even got real food!
And that proved to match their male counterparts during the dark days of the war.Quasi-duck wrote:
Rumour has it around 2000 of them were women.TankBuster wrote:
Rumour has it, that some of them, even got real food!
"Hit first ! Hit hard ! Keep on hitting ! ! (The 3 H's)" Admiral Jackie Fisher
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Yup. Communism makes all equal.TankBuster wrote:
And that proved to match their male counterparts during the dark days of the war.
In most cases, equally dead and poorQuasi-duck wrote:
Yup. Communism makes all equal.TankBuster wrote:
And that proved to match their male counterparts during the dark days of the war.
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No, I mean gender equality, something no modern country has.TankBuster wrote:
In most cases, equally dead and poor
Interesting suggestion.
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Israel allows females to fight on the front lines, entire brigades are made up of girls.Quasi-duck wrote:
No, I mean gender equality, something no modern country has.TankBuster wrote:
In most cases, equally dead and poor
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Women, actually.TankBuster wrote:
Israel allows females to fight on the front lines, entire brigades are made up of girls.

Snipers will change the strategy of the game, if they are added.
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