Paratrooper unit

Still no one replied to my rocket fighters inquiry.

You claim para were not historically effective at all, what about rocket fighters, did they have a greater impact compared to para

As to their impact on the game , it has many strategical uses , there will always be a player (BBB for example) who keeps some if his industry unguarded , para can easily capitalize

Dont tell me i will crush them with my mighty tank , airforce bla bla What if you are losing a critical battle on the front by chance or lost your air superiority , how will you destroy them ? Send your reinforcements to deal with them?

Great now your losing front is much easier for the enemy to dominate and advance, there are many scenarios , possibilities and strategic opportunities that para would bring , don't be ignorant

About your rocket int, they were alright.

Now onto the problem at hand. If someone is winning a war, why the hell would they waste res they could spend on morfe tanks etc. on para when they could just build the tanks etc. Remember, para require planes so you would have to build both inf and a strat bomber, both of which would be more useful if you just built the actual units.

Airborne units were not especially designed to fight for a prolonged amount of time, they were not an offensive force in their own right, they helped an offensive run smoothly with just about enough tools to get the job done, examples of this are the airborne operations before the D-day landings and market garden (Nijmegen bridge more than Arnhem)

and a German Fallschirmjaeger operation to secure a dutch fortress so the advance through the low countries could conform to the blitzkrieg offensive as best as possible. There are no (To my knowledge) an example of airborne forces fighting a prolonged offensive against conventional military units.

I have one Dave. Crete. The only reason Jerry won was because of British mistakes, not superior forces. Losses were so bad that it ruined the high hopes Germany had for para.

Alright as some one said looks like we keep rotating on the same circle , why not just setup a poll to see the general opinion of community?

I remember it was set up before and the crushing majority were in favor for para : yes for Para yes Paratroopers!

We have had a poll before. It seemed like the community wanted it but not enough to argue against me as I put it down like a sick dog.

Ah yes Crete, I believe the British officer in charge read an ultra-interception wrong and moved forces away from the airfield. The losses were so high a certain leader of Germany at the time personally ordered the cancellation of all airborne operations and employed them to a ground role, the dutch fort was actually Belgian and called Fort Eben-Emael

V1nd1cat0r wrote:

Can we all stop arguing? The effectiveness of paras are very questionable but if I have to guess it seems paras have 50% chance of succeding, there are times they did a thing some other times they did nothing, bottomline we will still take what the devs throw at us whether we like it or not, because that's how it goes.

Yes paras is not bad but not good, the only way to settle this is not to argue using real world reference and instead use it in-game, like the militia we will use it one way or another.

Yes and no. If some dumbass starts complaining, ignore him!

The devs will feel irritated by the fact that the community is complaining about something they begged for. This is not worth discussion.

All this talk of paratroopers has them defined like regular ground units.

What if we made paratroopers a strategic unit like rockets.

A one time attack that does a lot of damage to buildings and some reasonable amount of damage to infantry but little to armor. Unlike rockets, if there are no enemy ground units left at the center point of the province, if it was the target of the attack, the province is conquered. The attacker won't be able to hold it with out sending regular ground units to occupy it, or spend gold to up the moral.

This keeps hordes of flying infantry from being spammed and makes them useful for their historic use; softening up a target before an attack and disrupting infrastructure.

We could have Paratroopers here in game only if they would not be overpowered. My suggestion 1: Launching Paras only from Capitol. that can slow dawn expasion throw jumping. Cause Paras would make able that you gain only provinces that you really need. And if you gain only provinces what you need you rise quicklier, than if you must conquer all provinces on the way.

Suggestion 2: if paratroopers can be launched from airfield (but only at least lvl 2) so they have low range --> 150 km max 200 km.

Suggestion 3: if paratroopers can be launched from any airfield (even lvl 1) and range would be grater then 250 Km, so paratrooper should be weak in def (+1.5 vs land, + 1 vs arm, +0.3 vs air) and not as strong in att (+4, +2.5, +0)

Also plan a) Very strong paras (def +4/+3/+1.5) (att+8/+4/+0) very high range (700 km+), but only from capitol.

b) not strong not weak (def +2.5/+2/+1) (att +6/+3/+0), very small range (150km - 230 km) but from airfield lvl 3.

c) very weak (def+1.5/+1/+0.3) (att +4/+2.5/+0) with decent range (250 km - 450 km), but from every airfield lvl 2

I don't understand what your saying, the grammatical errors throw it off track. If you can spell check it that would be a good idea.

Para are just a bad idea no matter what.

Oh my God, do you people know what paras is? "Using them like rockets"? "Only from Capitol?, "SECRET UNIT"? Do you people what what your saying?! Are you people that high or are all annoying because your a little of both.

I'm going to start disliking to the next person posting something stupid and unrealistic about paras, if you got a dislike it's from me and that means your post is just bad, so let me say it again.

Paras...are...infantry...with...speed...of...plane...used...from...airfields...to...attack...and...defend...faster.

If you still don't get it then your just being stupid, come on people were in the 21st century were smarter than cavemen, why can't you people understand paras are ordinary infantry!? We're you hit on the head with a sledge hammer when your a child?!

Sorry about that guys I just hate smart people being stupid as f*ck, rest assure I won't dislike anyone, but seriusly if anyone post anything about paras as an equal to nukes, then you better watch your back.

V1nd1cat0r wrote:

were smarter than cavemen

V1nd1cat0r wrote:

I'm going to start disliking

As for the cavemen remark, I doubt it. Cavemen were revolutionary beings, giving us fire and also finding out what is good and what is bad to eat amongst many other things.

Thread closed due to insults & swearing.