Resource scamming should be punishable

People who fall for that should be punishable.

Clearly an ingame-scam. This could be preventable: e.g.

your country gives: 5000 food

other country gives: ROW

this would be clear for most of us I guess. The trade right now is an invitation for "trades" like those.

edit: I edited this after fox's post, because it hit's me ... my version was not obvious enough ... and if it's not clear people will be able to make a mistake when trading

The current way of trading in Diplomacy is unclear, even for me sometimes, it should say something that is obvious, like We Want : We Give

(stuff) (stuff)

Except it shows this in diplomacy, not just 'for'

It's shitty and it's punishable by destroying them. I don't think we need in-game punishment for it, just a little clearer language like you and fox have suggested.

i just scammed Someone today lol

Destructo the Great wrote:

i just scammed Someone today lol

Why?

All is fair in love and war

It doesn't work often

I usually get insulted

I get loads of scams directed against me and respond in kind

Why should we be punished for a ruse de guerre

Anyone stupid enough to fall for this should not play unless they can take it like sportsmen

TheZhukov wrote:

Why?

All is fair in love and war

It doesn't work often

I usually get insulted

I get loads of scams directed against me and respond in kind

Why should we be punished for a ruse de guerre

Anyone stupid enough to fall for this should not play unless they can take it like sportsmen

You like scamming new players?

You take advantage of a poorly made mechanic?

'it doesn't work often' yes, it does.

What does you getting insulted have to do with this post?

Scams? okay, how does that further your point?

Cause your 'ruse of war' is unfair, adding to the bad mechanics of the trading system.

Call people stupid again, i dare you, i won't stand for you insulting people who make mistakes.

Don't be too sorry for the victims of this scam; being a victim is born in greed. People think it is someone giving them free resources, and sometimes that happens, and you don't hear a word of complaint, even though it is usually something shady going on. But when their greed jumps on the offer without looking properly, it is cry-baby time.

K.Rokossovski wrote:

Don't be too sorry for the victims of this scam; being a victim is born in greed. People think it is someone giving them free resources, and sometimes that happens, and you don't hear a word of complaint, even though it is usually something shady going on. But when their greed jumps on the offer without looking properly, it is cry-baby time.

But i was not run by greed to take it, i really needed those resources.

This issue seems to be partly everyone's fault.

1. The people are scamming, it's just wrong, please stop.

2. The people accepting the trades without taking a good look at it. It is a bit greedy, just be careful.

3. Badly made game mechanic. With just a few simple changes, scams like this would be much harder to do successfully.

Number three is where I think the issue would be most easily solved. It's a quick fix and could just be put into a standard bug fix.

The others are much more difficult. Although experienced/veteran players would quickly learn to avoid such scams, this would not be the case with new players, and it would probably be common to see new players exploited to get free stuff, giving them an even bigger disadvantage. Of course, with #1, as long as its possible, people won't stop scamming. It's just the way it is. I hope something is done soon. It would suck to see new players leaving after their literal first experience with the game is getting scammed.

Fox-Company wrote:

K.Rokossovski wrote:

Don't be too sorry for the victims of this scam; being a victim is born in greed. People think it is someone giving them free resources, and sometimes that happens, and you don't hear a word of complaint, even though it is usually something shady going on. But when their greed jumps on the offer without looking properly, it is cry-baby time.

Sometimes it is a simple mistake, i fell for this once, first time i ever saw it, which hardens my point, they should make trading clearer.

But i was not run by greed to take it, i really needed those resources.

Use your right of way to enter all his cities and invade him

I actually offer peace for resources

You really have to be stupid man

Sorry Fox

I don't even offer right of way

I don't even say i'm going to leave the game because it is a lie

I scam people randomly but usually pick them form a different continent

I don't target noobs

As i stated before, you are taking advantage of a poorly made mechanic and using it against other players.

And do not insult me again, or i will report you.

This thread is finished.

If you try to get me to argue more i will ignore you.

So, lets leave this argument in the past, and move on, it has strayed into fighting.

chill

TheZhukov wrote:

I scam people